I hope this is a tipping point, and establishment Democrats recognize that the tide is shifting.
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Hochul is getting primaried by a more progressive candidate, and NYC has always been relatively weak for her because she's from Buffalo. This isn't actually about the mayoral race; she's begging the city to keep her in the governor's mansion.
Well she was Cuomo's Lt. Gov.
He's too fucking popular. Same problem mainstream centrist Dems have with AOC and Bernie.
I'm not surprised to see the hard-right Zionist Ds sitting down and shutting up for the most part. Nobody wants to be labeled with the Big L coming for Team Cuomo. But at some point you need to fundraise and build canvasing support off the same folks rallying around Mamdani. Can't do that from the sidelines.
And if Zohran starts advancing his own slate of primary challenges, that could be even more horrifying for the Hakeem Jeffries of the state.
I am hoping that 'Zohran the Destroyer', becomes the slasher flick of bad politicians. It would warm my heart seeing Jeffries, Polosi, Trump, and Thiel see their fortunes ended.
Yeah, at this point it's honestly a better deal for whoever endorses Mamdani than it is for Mamdani.
Yep, just tagging along on his popularity but whatever (legally) gets him the win, I'm okay with that. She's going to be up for reelection in 2026 and wants to be able to use that point to sell herself to progressives and leftists.
I'm totally fine with her tagging along with him. It's better than what Schumer and Jeffries are doing: undermining their own party and siding with Trump against the people.
She also desperately wants Mandami to win the Mayoral election because if he is unemployed in 2026 he might go after her job
If a no-name State Senator from Astoria loses a mayoral race to Cuomo, he's not going to turn around and ride a wave to the governor's mansion. But if this rising star lands in Gracie Mansion and has to go around cleaning up all Eric Adams's shit, there's a good chance he gets some of it on him and Hochul can use that to occupy his time for the next four years.
I'm thrilled to see a real progressive headed for the biggest mayorship in the country. But I don't see it as anything less than a poisoned chalice. The NYPD are not going to be kind to Zohran. The business wing of the party is going to put the screws to him every chance they get. The city bureaucracy will be a minefield. The press will be at this throat on day one.
And that's before Trump announced he wants to carpet bomb Hell's Kitchen just to prove a mayor can't fight back.
Not only that she cannot be framed as going against the will of her party electorate which is HUGE for her.
Well yeah, provided a "donor" or two doesn't cut them off for it.
True. They might lose that sweet sweet AIPAC money.
If you are wonder why her and not the senators, Schumer and Gillibrand aren't up for election for several years. Hochul is up for election next year.
The people that are really dumb are the congressional representatives of NYC such as Jeffries. He should be primaried.
Schumer and Gilibrand both need to go when their terms are up. They are not for the people, only corpo interests.
Schumer is going to step aside and leave things wide open for AOC to run for his seat, as long as she explicitly opts out of running for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Gavin is the Next One Up, after all....
Schumer and Gilibrand both need to go when their terms are up.
Wouldn't hurt if they left sooner, tbh.
Schumer's owners/donors have him by the balls. Some of his public declarations got as close to an endorsement as possible without actually using the word endorsement.
Some of his public declarations got as close to an endorsement as possible without actually using the word endorsement.
He doesn't get credit for maybe almost endorsing if you read between the lines of what he's saying. He's a corpo dem and we need to rid ourselves of these. I'm in Illinois and personally, the sooner we're rid of Dick Durban the fucking better. We need these billionaire bootlicking democrats to be primaried across the board.
I'm definitely not giving credit (I was trying to explain not excuse). If anything he gets negative credit because he knows first hand the anti-Mamdani propaganda is bullshit but he's still to much of a coward to tell his more fascist-leaning donors to take a hike.
Yeah, but won't someone think of the Baileys???
Original here, for those that want to read it:
I didn’t leave my conversations with Mr. Mamdani aligned with him on every issue. But I am confident that he has the courage, urgency and optimism New York City needs to lead it through the challenges of this moment
Who is it that said "if you align with me on half the issues, vote for me, if you align with me on every issue, see a psychiatrist."
That would be former NYC mayor Ed Koch
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/01/ed-koch-quotes/1883223/
Mamdani bitchessssszs!!! Wooo!
Wow, finally
So brave 🤪
Wow it only took 2 months 😆
The only mayor candidate capable of standing up to Trump
Nice to see a New York Democrat with a brain, I guess.
This isn’t having a brain. This is having the moral compass of a windsock, and seeing that you’re getting wrecked in opinion polls, and trying to do an about face. Hochul was never the best choice. She was always a party-establishment shoo-in. Her opinion is only changing now because the public pressure was so overwhelming.
I'm just saying she's acting smarter than Jeffries and Schumer. Sheesh.
I’m not giving you shit - simply pointing out that this is just politicking, not a demonstration of any real moral character.
ceenote didn't said it showed moral character, they said it showed intelligence (ie "a brain", ie she read the room that it would be in her own political self-interest to take this stance). You're in violent agreement with ceenote.
Its not intelligence it's self-preservation. The intelligent stance would be something other than flip flopping and changing "your views" with the political winds. That's just being disingenuous and demonstrating to your constituents that you'd just as easily throw them under the bus later if you thought it would benefit you personally. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would give them kudos for engaging in this behavior.
Schumer has AIPAC in his corner (or, more accurately, he's firmly in their pocket) and he isn't up for election for a few years. So he doesn't really have to care what public opinion is right now. Hochul is up for re-election next year and cant afford to have public opinion wreck her right now.
Someone's preparing to ride the Mamdani wave! Good.
nice try, doing it to save face after you spent months railing on him.
Mamdani had to kiss the police boots but he gets a useless endorsement in its place.
Pragmatism is not bootlicking lol.
What did he do?
Thanks. Unfortunately that’s how the system works so I don’t know if I can blame him too much. But it also demonstrates why politics can’t start and end with electoralism. We need to have a base of power that is outside of these types of pressures, which can match the pull of the institutions politicians are subjected to.
It is ironic since people would elect him even without caving to the system but he still decides to cave.
Getting elected isn't the problem, it's being hamstrung by preemptively antagonizing a police force that's a major power bloc in your city. He won't be able to walk in day 1 and purge corruption from a massive, violent, broken institution.
You should definitely wait for a more perfect candidate. I mean, the voters shouldn’t, but it feels like you need something more.