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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that's always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.

Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking "with or without gang violence?"

[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't he saying something about "gang violence" literally the moment he got shot?

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago

Just when I thought it couldn't get any more ironic

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

late stage

You are far more optimistic than I, my friend.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean the government isn't necessarily late stage but if the fascists are fighting over who's the biggest fascist that means shit's up.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe, but authoritarian regimes do often purge their ranks, and it doesn't always mean anything significant is going down.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I agree fascist tend to indulge in self harm via factionalism, I don't think this is really that, nor is it late stage. We're approaching the stage where the fascist shed their traditional conservative mask and start enforcing their real ideology over the traditional conservative party.

People forget that 4 years before the Nazi started their purge on greater German society during Kristallnacht they first purged and consolidated power in their own house during the night of the long knives.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

This is it.

The "true believers" in neoliberal conservative values are useful to make the rightward march to increasingly reactionary politics seem proper and reasonable to anyone who isn't paying attention.

But when shit is about to go down those same talking heads are a liability if they aren't cool with barely contained barbarism.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is not the late stages. This is not even the honeymoon.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fuckers can carry on knocking each other off and Vlad should advise them to use the 6th floor windows and balconies instead of bullets.

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[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Context? What's the other faction? The first one is likely https://wiki.froth.zone/wiki/Groypers?lang=en but I dunno the second.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I didn't even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.

I only knew Nick Fuentes as "That guy who tried to sue Antifa" and later "The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024"

Apparently there's controversy about him not "really" being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly.... and I'm like...

"This is too much even for me."

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I didn't even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was "damn, that really is a tiny face".

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

He was the splitting image of the default Mii character.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

They had to go for the neck because the face was too small a target.

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[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait'll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 130 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I KNOW RIGHT???

And people were like "oh the killer carved UWU what's this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that's common in Groyper circles"

Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean????
I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I'm just like dude, our lizard brains can't handle the internet. We just weren't wired to work like this, there's no way

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw someone who described the murder as a shitpost and that scarily makes sense.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The world's first shitpost murder. Insane.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I really, truly, with all of my being, feel that we are reaching the end limits of what the human mind is currently able to contend with. We are so overstimulated it's insane. We literally need to evolve our physical bodies as a species to continue living as we are or we will literally die.

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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 144 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

If anyone's feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog's creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It's very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a feeling the trial is going to be a cringe fest of internet memes. Lawyers explaining to the jury what 4chan and pepe is. The trial Charlie Kirk deserves.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.

Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

https://i.imgflip.com/a658co.jpg

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (19 children)
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