Progressive Politics

Except that one guy, who was fine with the hate against communists, labor unions, romani, jews, and disabled people. Until they came for him, and then he was really upset that nobody stood up for him. He was a church person too, but eventually became the wrong type of church person. Many such cases.

I think the reason it looks like religion motivates violent extremism is because the demography of the people most vulnerable to extremist propaganda are also more likely (statistically) to be more religious.

"Too focused" on the original Us vs. Them indoctrination machine? Are you high, naive, or just that stupid? ("All of the above" is also an option, of course.)

This is crazy. It's like when people say "let's eliminate a whole swath of the population because they are impure" and "please don't murder us" are phrases that carry equal weight.

Divisive lies for hatred and anticonstitutional genocide

who defines what these divisive lies are?

its one of those "I don't know where the line is but I know it when I see it" things, but with some easy math. Given our rights should stop only when it can risk someone else's life or liberty, does the speech in question go past that?

How do we adjust our thinking for hundreds of million people; for resources and concerns that go beyond personal obligations under the social contract; for protecting things we need 3 generations from now?

It falls apart without handoff to some kind of ethical framework and a team of elders to review cases against it and evolve that framework -- and look how easy it was to subvert America's legal elders in just a decade.

But will even that decide whether there's a difference between a zygote and a tumour? Will it prioritize the person or what may one day become one? Will it take responsibility for dying in a controlled fashion when there is no future due to terminal illness, a non-viable body or an unredeemable crime?

It can't be establishment that decides. Current establishment requires disinformation to be protected speech. We have always had to say Eurasia is evil.

There needs to be a layer independent of establishment, and/or a much stronger constitution that protects truth/values from supremacist lies and direct abuses of constitution.

The 2 absolute evil examples I gave are absolute. OP spent too much energy on speech that is similar to "blacks can't swim and whites can't jump." As long as it doesn't lead to establishment policy that restricts sports team enlistment by race, it is just "relatively innocent" racism that may or may not have a grain of truth in stereotypes, and doesn't matter. Speech that doesn't matter is the only type that is allowed by establishment, but it would be overly broad to interfere with it. Speech/disinformation for antihuman establishment demonism shift is the critical speech, and whether establishment welcomes it or not, has no basis in whether it be permitted.

More on Christofascism.... religious organizations will typically purpose themselves for demonism. Using idealist principles to capture souls in order to sell them to the most demonic evil powers/establishment. The commonality between Christofascism and (Christo)Humanism is classifying production (children, work) as good. The humanist approach instead of punishing women for failing their 28 baby quota, is positive family planning decisions made easier by easier access to prosperity, which unfortunately for the christofascists, means much freer alternatives to the requirement of listening to demons' sermon for salvation before getting soup.

By embracing both Zionaziism and Replacement theory, Christofacsist "ambassadors" are also serving White fascism above Christianity. When Black Christians making positive family planning decisions are "acts of war" against US establishment, then the white part is necessarily more important to the fascists than the Christian demonism.