i for one welcome more options that aren't google meet and zoom
Proton
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Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.
Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.
Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.
SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.
Or <shudder> Teams
I wish they would add a Sheets/Excel competitor to go with the Docs competitor they have in Proton Drive now. My needs for a spreadsheet application fall squarely into a crack of being so little that its not worth hosting something myself but large enough that it is a good value add for some hosted service I am already using or paying for.
I have used cryptpad.fr for this recently, works pretty good.
I have used cryptpad.fr for this recently, works pretty good.
Self hosted: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs
Buzzword bingo (P2P, CRDT, E2EE): https://github.com/coast-team/mute
Meanwhile Linux users are left lacking features. What is this, 4 brand new services from Proton in as many months. MullvadVPN, Tuta, and Addy are looking more and more attractive every time you skip over Linux.
I'm regretting both prepaying for so many years of services and having so many email domains.
I think I'm going to self host a mail server next and see how good it is.
Self hosting email is pain.
Less so about the technical piece, but high chance a peer won't fully accept your mail.
That's really the thing I'm most concerned about.
At this point I think I need to recalculate the cost for VPN and secure email. I'm paying for those, potentially value add things like drive are languishing (although I was hopeful with the community rclone adapter) and they are using funds for a lot of stuff that is irrelevant.
There is a use for proton meet but is it really want the broad customer base wants? It feels like their leadership has a vision and customer needs are being bypassed.
They are stretching into the business sector. This is important for that.
This makes a lot of sense. I wish I had a better feel for when they would shift focus from product introduction to product improvement again though.
I remember when people thought offering VPN was a distraction from improving their email features.
This complaint is getting old.
To someone who is/was interested in Proton's email service but not their VPN service this may still be a fair point though imo. I don't think it being a rehashed complaint here automatically invalidates it.
If the prices don't go up, you have a point.
Lol, proton trying hard to get more customers. Every service they offer can be replaced be free and open source alternatives, or much cheaper and arguably more sovereign services
Maybe that's the point - they provide all the hosted but privacy friendly services you need
Yeah, is great for convenience. I get it that's more important for some people and that's ok. My "lol" was probably uncalled for.
Linux application this time? Still waiting for native support on Proton Drive.
Hopefully there's no application at all.
Still waiting for ProtonVPN support for Linux distributions other than Ubuntu/"Gnome Debian".
The Flatpak and Arch (I know, unofficial versions) packages appear to be broken for quite some time, and Proton devs have closed a bug report for it as it's not a "supported platform".
It's working fine in my machine.
What's broken about them? I just installed the package from the AUR a couple of days ago and it seems to be working fine for me.
Not to downplay, not having support for Arch, but neither does Mullvad so its not a proton only thing.
MullVad at least worked reliably for me on Arch
There are RPMs as well, but yeah, Proton has terrible Linux support overall.
(It's starting to feel like Proton is going to end up being a hosted Nextcloud)
I already have encrypted video conferencing with Matrix, but I just tried Proton Meet (I'm a Visionary customer) and it was indeed a smooth experience starting up a meeting. I will likely use it whenever I need to videoconf with some random.