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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 102 points 6 months ago (2 children)

LLMs cannot lie/gaslight because they do not know what it means to be honest. They are just next-word predictors.

I think the ads are terrible too, but it's a fool's errand to try and rationalize with an LLM chatbot

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Man, seriously, every time I see someone get into these weird conversations where they try to convince a chatbot of something it's slightly disturbing. Both not being aware of how pointless it is and knowing but still being compelled by the less uncanny valley-ish language are about on par with each other.

People keep sharing this as proof of AI shortcomings, but it honestly makes me worry most about the human side. There's zero new info to be gained from the chatbot behavior.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago

Well said! On one hand I suppose I am "happy" to see people questioning the value of these bots, but assuming it "understands" anything, or has "motive" is still giving them power they don't have and IMO, leaving the door open to allow yourself to be fooled/manipulated by them in the future.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

They take a sentence and predict what the first result on google or response on whatsapp would look like.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You should really uninstall all meta products from your devices

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago

This has been true for a decade. Gonna say when if them starting to blatantly train facial recognition on people's private pictures didn't do it, then this isn't going to.

I keep bringing this up to people and nobody seems to be particularly interested in that acknowledgement. The shills don't like to compare precedent, the viral critics don't like to acknowledge the lack of novelty in the current situation or their inability to trigger any mainstream action.

I'm just... kinda sad.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It is hilarious that people don't think AI ads are going to be astronomically worse than search engine ads, and you won't be able to adblock them either.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, they'll learn your personality profile and manipulate you, get you on the edge of suicide, only to bring you back of the ledge to sell you the newest AI sunglasses.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 6 months ago

For one, it would be interesting to see how many times they can take "fuck you" as an answer.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It seems so obvious to me that Google's switch to LLMs is to prevent adblockers and yet I rarely see that point brought up.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 6 months ago

Serving ads to 90% of people for massive profits just isn't enough for Google.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 months ago

It is a great example of how painfully naive tech people can be.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago

Quite probable the LLM didn't even know that was there. Just because it appears in the chat window doesn't mean it's part of the LLMs chat history.

This is just Meta dumping bullshit ads in the chat in a way that is invisible to the chatbot.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Can we please make the distinction between Artificial Intelligence and Virtual Intelligence?

Mass Effect used this to great effect.

An AI is a fully actualized Intelligence. A sentient being. It can think and feel and it is genuine intelligence. What we would call AGI.

A VI is a Virtual Intelligence. That's a chatbot or LLM. A program made to mimic intelligence.

In Mass Effect VI were used as tour guides and as the user facing interface to relay information.

I think the whole space would greatly benefit from making that distinction clear.

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

No matter what you and I call "real" AI, marketers are going to misuse the term on everything.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

We used to call these kinds of things Assistive Intelligences. But the marketing departments gonna market.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Why even bother to gaslight AI though?

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I don’t respect people who are keeping their Facebooks or Twitters. Just delete it already. It’s a Nazi shithole.