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As an American, my message to my friends in Europe is, to paraphrase Musk: “Whether you choose Trumpian right wing thuggery and nationalism, it is coming to you. You either fight back or you die.”
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We are so fucked. There is no escaping this global rush of extremism.
I am originally from the states, but was lucky enough to move to Australia 11 years ago.
I thought I escaped the growing right wing crazy, and watched from afar as Trump was elected the first time, and my country descended into fascism.
Then here in Australia there was a white supremacist rally. Then another.
Then in my city there was a "March for Australia" organised by known white supremacists, but claiming not to be racist.
"They just don't want all this immigration".
Their website also said they wanted remigration.
Remigration is an originally European far-right proposal for ethnic cleansing via the mass deportation of non-white immigrants and their descendants, sometimes including those born in Europe, to their place of racial ancestry.
Sounds pretty racist to me.
This march was planned for the final day of the state multicultural festival. Its planned start and end point was the park where the festival was being held.
My family and I decided we would go. I haven't been to a protest since I was a teenager, but I felt it was our duty to show that not everyone agrees with this.
The day before the march our best friend said their friends were afraid to go out to lunch with them that day, because their parents were verbally assaulted in a grocery store on Friday for being immigrants.
They later said people came to their parents house and were beating on the door and yelling about them being immigrants.
My husband stood there in his suit, I stood in my pretty dress with flowers, our daughters held signs that said things like "so bad even the introverts are here".
The March was not peaceful and was definitely racist. We started off to the side, sitting with flags my daughters and I made with hundreds of countries on them, and eventually we were swarmed as the crowd veered to come right past us.
They screamed obscenities at us, pushed into me, pushed my husband, tried to rip the sign from his hands. They ripped down the flags we made. Blew an air horn in our faces.
Many claimed they were not racist but my husband got called a f-ing Jew multiple times??? Maybe it was the beard and the hat, I don't know.
Seemed pretty racist to me.
Eventually police came and stood in front of us while we packed our things and left. We would do it again, in a heartbeat.
Before the rowdy crowd came looking for trouble we had immigrants come up and thank us, hug us, and we want them to know that not everyone agrees with this march.
Not wanting immigration is not what this march was about. This march was about fear and racism.
I urge all of you, show up, make signs, show that not everyone agrees.
There is no escaping this global rush of extremism.
You can't escape it, you have to defeat it.
I stood up for what was right, as did my husband and daughters, I'm really proud of them.
We are only one family, but we would do it again.
Sigh. Indeed.
I'll see you there then. This has been going on for long enough. They're so full of crap, they don't even realise that this land was never ceded from the traditional owners who have walked this part of the earth for over 60k years.
This is a very disheartening story. Do Australians realize anyone not brown isn’t indigenous to Australia?
The white racists in America sure don't. And they don't care.
True it’s sad that it’s getting bad everywhere. Nazis are a plauge
Sigh. I don't know. We brought that up often that day.
At some point climate change is going to cause more migrants than any 'developed' nation can support. Net migtration into the UK is currently coming in at around 700k a year. This is London a decade for a country that is pretty close to as population dense as the area around New York - I think they call it the tri-state area. Imagine nearly a New York a decade into the tri-state area. That is what the UK is currently doing and has been doing for decades now.
With the best will in the world it simply isn't sustainable. The UK is not food secure and is not energy secure now. Are we supposed to rely on a belligerently corporatist EU for food, and then Russia, for energy? (edit - I haven't looked at our current energy situation, I am not interested in media stories about UK energy. I have looked into it enough to know a lot of it is bollocks.) It actually isn't possible now for the UK to have the immigration we have.
The door is going to be closed and at least many millions of the poorest globally, who haven't caused climate change, are going to lose their lives unnecessarily. I don't like it at all, but this IS going to happen. So when do we close the door? The poorest in the UK are already having food taken out of their mouths, and that working poor is growing due to many decades of neo-liberal capitalist policy. Same dynamic as the US expressing itself in a slightly different way.
I spent the second decade of this century is a small city of about 250k people that experienced about 30k immigration in the last two decades. It is a poor city anyway, with cheap available housing due to previous government decisions forcing many of the people born there to leave. They dumped a load of people into communities that cannot support them. It is not racist to say that this isn't doable. When 'liberal' media people say it is racist to complain the people I grew up with (who I don't particularly like, but will defend from outsiders) will just say 'well fuck you, if I'm racist I['ll vote for the racist party'.
I don't like any of this. I am just describing the reality. You either face up to reality or you will see fascism as a result.
The issue isn't that they don't want immigrants, or want immigration reform.
The issue is that they literally want remigration (ethnic cleansing of all non whites) and were threatening and ugly.
They chose to hold a protest on a day when families were out enjoying different cultures.
They were violent towards me and my children and husband, and spouted bullshit American rhetoric while doing it.
Claiming that they like immigrants, they just don't want illegal immigrants.
Australia is an island! We lock up the immigrants who come by boat on an island! We don't have illegal immigrants!
I see DarkAri has deleted their comment, but I think it's important that everyone can see what was written.
This is the kind of unhinged nonsense we are up against. Accusations and ramblings that aren't even relevant to my comment.
The mass immigration has been by far the strongest reason that right wing politics became so popular. Dont delude yourself. The left fucked up. It's not right to force half the country to tolerate mass immigration just because you think you are smarter then them. That is the shit that ruined democracy. Most democratic things are not about what is right or wrong. If another citizen doesn't want to have a million Indians or muslims living in his hometown thats none of your business. It is his right to have a state that represents him so long as he isn't advocating to take away anyone's rights. You are lucky the Republicans are incredibly corrupt and stupid and are doing all the other things that the right hates,like censorship, taking away freedom, stuff like this. Your pathetic state is so desperate to micromanage everyone's lives and monitor them that they just cannot help themselves to not ruin their own position again. The racism is strong, but half of the reason people voted for the right is because they perceived the left as being the side of censorship and mass surveillance and fascism, but they are getting a wakeup call now. Lucky for you their politicians are incredibly stupid and also many people who are actually right wing do have some decent values and character and will reject the Republican politics completely for this bullshit they are trying to pull. Don't ever sell out your fellow citizens to the state and corporations again. We do not need them telling us what we can watch and read, and what we can vote on, we don't need them or you policing our speech. We are free people just like you, not subjects and not slaves. If the leftists can actually learn to take responsibility for their shitty tactics they might actually get power again. The day they stop trying to ignore half the country is the day they will start getting popularity again. After the 2016 election with Hilary it's pretty obvious how extremely corrupt they were, but now people are seeing how much more corrupt the right is. We got lucky this time but if the left doesn't wise up they are going to lose everything for a few decades until right wing politics become lame again.
We lock up the immigrants who come by boat on an island! We don’t have illegal immigrants!
In a shop window in northern California, I recently saw a sign saying "nobody is illegal on stolen land."
Perhaps we are talking about two slightly different things. I was describing the situation in the UK and across 'developed' nations (i.e. the rise of fascism) that is leading to the same public sentiment you experienced. We had a neo-nazi march in the UK over the weekend too. You are describing what happened to you. I am explaining why,.
Maybe you were the downvoter. You can't downvote away reality. It is foolish to try.
Yet Palestine protesters are arrested... What a sick joke.
It’s because our police forces are full of sadistic far right facists
they were even doing it this past weekend here in Toronto, Canada. People marching and holding up posters of Kirk. was insane.
Funny thing was seeing a bunch of POC among them and I'm thinking "you moronic motherfuckers, if the cops weren't here they'd turn on you without a moments hesitation."
Nazis made a martyr out of Horst Wessel. Republicans are trying to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk.
A gathering of bell ends, as the Brits would say.
Absolute fucking morons.
Every single one of those people is going to end up in poverty as a direct result of who they want to elect.
Just one more immigrant removed and life will get better, we promise /s
What you have to understand about these people is that they already feel they are down on their luck and are to weak to do anything about it.
The best they can hope for to feel better about themselves is that other people are even worse off, which is why they are so full of hate and want immigrants to be punished.
We may be underestimating how many are willing to be a peasant in a Christofascist ethnostate.
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The UK should issue an international arrest warrant for Elon Musk.
So should the EU
Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you.
From the even further right as it turned out.
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It’s a living satire
Britain must stand united
Where almost half the flags are not Union Jack but the English flag. 🤣🤣🤣
Such a bunch of morons.
As i quoted before. Racists were never burdened with an over abundance of book learning
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I'm astounded that in a gathering of fascists two people holding English and Irish flags can stand in the same vicinity of each other and not start throwing punches.
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Jesus Christ, same planet but different worlds. How does someone so hateful have so many fans?
Basically everyone living in capitalism without regulation has been slowly and systemically crushed over time and the capitalists (and other parties interested in destabilization) have done a good job at convincing them that it’s not in fact the capitalists but rather immigrants, minorities, women, etc etc That are at fault
I think racism and tribalism is easy. It's the first thought of an uneducated person, it's base, it's instinct, and it feels good to follow through on any conviction. But most people had no good reason to he racist, you worked with a few migrants, the black guy at college was great, and Jackie Chan movies are great. Then the internet / bot farms / Russia came along, and fed the uneducated a constant steady stream of racist content. Couple that with the people who found politics too boring getting Donald Trump. And he's seen the racist bot farm content too! He just gets us! Bam, a recipe for disaster.
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Stop the world, I want to get off this ride.
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