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[–] popjam@lemmy.world 243 points 5 days ago (7 children)

A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

FBI director concludes speech with "Rest now, my brother, we have the watch, and I'll see you at Valhalla"

Reality is satire

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 85 points 5 days ago

He did not seriously say the valhalla line, did he? Please tell me that was actual satire?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 72 points 5 days ago

FBI director is a nutcase

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"I'll see you in Valhalla"

Obvious Nazi dogwhistle is obvious.

Nazis are obsessed with Norse mythology.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

This is true and as I am familiar with Norse mythology neither of them are eligible to go there.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Who is this trans-ideology ammunition manufacturer?

Is trans ideology even a thing? I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 56 points 5 days ago

Is trans ideology even a thing?

That's called a Linux subreddit

I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?

It is

But fascists are trying to genocide us and will use any tool available to them

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 32 points 5 days ago

https://www.transjournalists.org/tja-urges-caution-in-reporting-on-details-of-charlie-kirk-shooting-investigation/

It should also be noted that “transgender ideology” is a term coined for and used in anti-trans political messaging to falsely equate identity with politics, which is a way to frame transgender identity as a political choice rather than an innate identity.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Until it appears in court, it's not evidence, it's speculation or lies.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 158 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can we find the person who, for no apparent reason, interpreted manufacturers markings as apparent 'trans ideology' and ask him wtf that was supposed to accomplish? I mean if you don't know what some markings mean, aside from blatant bias is there any possible way to get to 'trans ideology' from manufacturers markings? Are they using male/female icons? Emojis? Printing them in rainbow colors?

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 84 points 5 days ago (7 children)

EDIT: the misinterpretation may actually be a series of arrows related to a Helldivers 2 move. Up, right, down, down, down. There is an anti fascist icon of three downward arrows. I'm guessing the idiots thought the other two arrows looked like those astrological gender icons and decided that must mean trans somehow.

TRN. It's the manufacturers code for a Turkish company called Turan. That's what I heard at any rate.

Identifying that as trans is just rank incompetence. Anyone that stupid would be fired in a sane world. Under our fascist regime, new FBI director incoming.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 124 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

I opened up Ground News today and the mainstream news sources are just full of this statement that the bullets were "engraved with transgender ideology." Someone has been making very sure this falsehood is the message all the journalists take away and report. And now it has been all over the news throughout the day.

It's horrible seeing the fascists lie and lie to set up trans people as villains and enemies.

And what's with this "anti-fascist ideology" thing? Remember before 2015 when anti-fascist ideology was just the default and the baseline for being even a half-decent person?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Damned straight.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Reminder that Ground news exists entirely to push a "both sides" narrative in a world where right wing media openly seeks to push "alternative facts" and big lies.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago (10 children)

"Family member" narc'ed.

Important lesson everyone, listen up: someone will always narc. It's a surveillance society in a heavily propagandized world. Your right to remain silent is all you get.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 5 days ago (2 children)

he called his dad and confessed. his dad advised him to turn himself in. he said he'd rather commit suicide. his dad called his youth pastor to talk him down, who called the US marshals to secure him. I feel bad for the dad.. that's got to be a genuinely horrible situation to navigate.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Youth pastor calling the marshals man. Cold.

Would Jesus narc on you? Friend, he would not. Mostly because he didn't exist but still. As a character that is not consistent.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Jesus did actually exist. He was like a guy that was really there at some point

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

Fuckin' lawl

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

"Did it for the lulz" old meme checks out.

[–] actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 67 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Inscriptions on a fired casing read: “notices bulges” capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

Imagine having to say that at a press conference.

[–] mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works 71 points 4 days ago (5 children)

So to sum up, Charlie Kirk was downplaying gun violence in the US, and using a racist dogwhistle to do so, WHILE standing under a giant fucking "prove me wrong" banner, when he was shot with a bullet labeled "OWO what's this?" by a Mormon cop's kid from Utah (ie, whiter than raisins in potato salad).

That is an actual fucking series of events that actually fucking happened. We've gone past "the onion is reality" to "this would be too on the nose if it was an onion article and yet it's somehow reality".

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[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 21 points 4 days ago
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

New article suggests the shooter was from a MAGA family, and even had a note about what kind of messages they planned to engrave they had shared on Discord.

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[–] ObscureOtter@piefed.ca 47 points 5 days ago (7 children)

The other inscriptions on the fired casings:

“notices bulges”

capital “O-W-O what’s this?”

Inscriptions on the three unfired casings:

“hey fascist!” “catch!” Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

“Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Ciao, Ciao.”

“If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”

Also:

A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

This says that the "sequence of arrows" was interpreted as a transgender symbol.

Now we know that the sequence of arrows was "up, right, down, down, down"

...that's the strategem code for the 500kg bomb in helldivers 2.

The ATF interpreted a video game reference as a transgender symbol...

Edit: another claim I'm seeing, quote from snopes:

Some users online claimed officials had misinterpreted "TRN," an engraving found on ammunition produced by Turan Ammunition, a Turkish company, as "transgender ideology."

This is a more logical mistake to make but is also an embarrassing and irresponsible mistake from the ATF if true.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah and here I was hoping for the konami code

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Hey can someone tell me what the fuck "transgender ideology" means? Because to me that phrase makes absolutely zero sense

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

“Transgender ideology” is the outrageous radical belief that transgender people are people and deserve to be able to live their lives.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

Just right-wing drivel to discredit a minority they don't understand. There's not much to understand beyond that because them they don't understand it themselves.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (3 children)

How was it engraved? Did the guy own some sort of engraving rig? How did he fit all this text on a bullet?

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

How he managed to fit such long messages on a bullet?

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