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Even if I had wanted to upgrade, I wouldn't be able to, since Microsoft needs hardware mg computer doesn't have. I can't imagine most people would care enough to even think about that. They'd just keep using the computer until it no longer worked, and in the modern day, that will take a lot longer than it would have a decade or two ago.

I'm still on win10. Planning on hopping over this one Linux-based operating system for gaming specifically (can't remember its name) once the updates for Win10 run dry. I've heard so much bad stuff about 11 that I'm going to try again with Linux (years ago I jumped in Ubuntu since a friend recommended it but I needed to jump back because games didn't work well).

I'm one of the few whose laptop is about 10 years old so it needs replacing. Most likely a new laptop will be preloaded with windows 11. Do they sell laptops pre-loaded with Linux?

It convinced me to ditch dual booting and to go full Linux

Microsoft 'Convinced' me to move to Linux, best move I've ever done.

Microsoft has given users fair warning, and said that users can get a year of updates for free but eventually the company will have to face facts and extended support beyond October.

We can’t recall a time where Microsoft has done such a thing but these are extenuating circumstances given that most users just aren’t budging.

WTF is this guy talking about? Far as I can tell this is the Win7 playbook all over again. Looking it up, this was the timeline:

Jan. 13, 2015: Microsoft ended Mainstream Support for Windows 7.

Sept. 6, 2018: Microsoft announced the ESUs for Windows 7. The ESU program is a paid service that provides critical security updates for legacy products for up to three years after Extended Support ends.

August 2019: Microsoft announced a year of free ESUs, but only for select users, including customers with an Enterprise Agreement or Enterprise Agreement Subscription with active Windows 10 Enterprise E5, Microsoft 365 E5, or Microsoft 365 E5 Security subscriptions. This was limited to only Government E5 stock keeping units.

Jan. 14, 2020: Microsoft ended Extended Support for Windows 7.

Jan. 10, 2023: The ESUs reached their end of life on the first Patch Tuesday of 2023.

That's almost a decade of post-end of support updates. If anything, MS confirmed ESU before trying to shut down home user patches this time, so it looks less like terrified backpedalling. And as the linked article itself admits, the data they're reporting on shows a significant number of users still on Win7. The article waves it away as just "too many", but the original report says 8.5%.

Because, as it turns out, the kind of people using Kapersky antivirus software and the number of people who would not upgrade from a 16 year old OS that has lost support half a dozen times over the past half a decade show significant overlap. In the Steam survey right now Win 7 is only 0.07%, for reference.

While we're at it Win 11 is 60% vs 35% for Win 10. For all the headlines when Steam shows Linux growth you don't often hear over here that Win 11 went up by 0.5% and Windows overall went up by 0.36%, although it's worth noting that Windows has been pretty stable between 94 and 96% since the survey started.

I've said it before and I'll keep reality checking it: the Win 10 end of support process has been wildly overhyped, particularly among Linux-friendly circles. It is not meaningfully different to moves out of other "good" versions of Windows and it's not a catastrophic crisis point for MS, for better and worse. They'll keep support up for the people who need it for as long as they're willing to pay and most legacy home users won't even know their old Win10 is unsupported because it'll just keep happily chugging along with all the same malware it already has until something breaks and they have to buy a new laptop with a preinstalled Win11 or 12 or whatever.

The most the Win10 death hype is doing to hurt MS is create a flurry of social media posts that can convince tech savvy, Linux-curious users who were previously held back by lack of gaming support to give user friendly distros a try.

Had to use Rufus to even install it on a ThinkPad which works perfectly. Drivers and all.

Maybe they should stop trying to be like Apple. You can’t limit upgrades then complain about no one upgrading.

The virtual machine I installed windows on to play games with kernel-level anticheat and other such spyware apparently isn't compatible with windows 11. That's a positive for 2 reasons, which are:

1. It can't run Windows 11, so no risk of a forced upgrade
2. Windows won't constantly harass me to upgrade.

10/10 experience, would not give give Windows access to bare metal again.

Windows 11 blue screens on my desktop on the very first boot right after installation.

Wait...
Excluding half of the active PCs or so from upgrade due to arbitrary hardware constraints didn't push upgrading?
How can this be??? 😯🫢

Replace that with "will never"....except at work because most* CEOs are stupid.

they did convince me to upgrade to linux mint 22 tho

Yeah, because if I did then in another 5 years it would be the same thing with Windows 12. Then 13. And so on. So I'm ditching Microsoft entirely in October and moving onto Mint.

I use Linux for almost everything, but I do have some important software that only works on Windows, so my solution is dual booting Windows 10 with a different static IP than the Linux partition, with the Windows IP blocked from the internet in the firewall.

I mean... they force to upgrade people to OS with critical SSD issues.

What?! Are they not emphasizing that the start menu has moved from the left of the screen to the middle of the screen? Really seems like that alone should hook people.

I mean, who wants to buy a brand-new computer to be able to run Windows 11 anyway? Besides,most folks aren't tech-savvy or care enough to go through the hoops just to install this dumpster fire of an OS.

Mandatory secure boot is the thing. Before I get a new motherboard and CPU I’ll just get Linux. Gaming works great there, and those 3 things I actually need Microsoft for can be used in a VM

Read the room, Microsoft.