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I'm not sorry. Seeing someone who spread so much hate and bigotry and weaponized disinformation get his clock cleaned was absolutely fine by me.

I have empathy for lots of people even if we don't always agree, but not for people like Charlie Kirk.

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[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's so fucking hard for me to even begin to disagree with you. I want to feel empathy for this human being but for fuck's sake... you can feel the irony and hypocrisy...

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Years of bad faith argument by professional high school bullies does that. Years of spreading hate and intolerance to their "others", but shock and horror whenever someone didn't tolerate them. Years of snide comments or glee whenever there was an attack on someone they didn't like.

I really didn't care when Paul Pelosi was attacked because people like him don't care or even notice when someone me gets attacked. Why should I care at that Kirk was attacked?

People are saying that this attack with spark more violence, but it didn't really matter that Franz Ferdinand was shot. WWI was going to happen some way or another. Whatever happens next was going to happen one way or another.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I agree on a lot of particulars there, but I feel compelled to quibble on behalf of historical contingency. We are separated from the past by an infinity of momentary possibilities, and just as people in the past did not know what was going to happen, we can never know what possibilities did not come to fruition. It seems impossible that there was ever such a thing as a foregone conclusion in light of the sheer amount of things that are left to chance every single day. Any historian worth the time of day will tell you that their subject is a litany of unintended consequences, and I am happier knowing that no fate is preordained, especially not war.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Feel empathy for the fact that people like Charlie, other white supremacists, have something so fundamental missing in their souls they treat other people so poorly. Feel empathy for the fact he was a piss poor human and didn't understand love, respect, community, humanity, etc.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hey just looked at his wikipedia page and whats funny to me is there is very little about his actual life. Its like hes a caricature and nothing more. It makes me think of animes where people are caught up with spirits and stop being human. In this case the spirit is the movement that does not care for his humanity.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

His Wikipedia should mention how he failed at the game of life. I've already significantly outlived him in years. And I'm not a pathetic worm propagandist. I beat Charlie Kuck at the game of life. We all did.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He was such a hollow husk of a man that I'm surprised there was anything inside to leak out.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I can never actually rejoice in it. I avoided the video and my wife sprung it on me and like other things like this I berated her (she knows I don't like reality gore and prefer printed news). I made comments because its a bit hard not to with mister a few killings here and there are the price you pay for gun freedom.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Here's why I feel the way I do. Because he said shit like this.

Here's the full article with all the things he has said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Guessing the WMBA one was about Brittney Griner, who nobody liked, but you can see how he capitalized on that to push his agenda. Seriously, we traded someone who willing went to Russia for the war criminal that Lord of War was based off of.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get why someone would but again I can't really rejoice. A human died, a man died, a man was assasinated while publically speaking. I can say that and I don't like that. I can't say a good man died though, that is for sure.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

It's absolutely fine you feel that way. You feel what you feel.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 127 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk died while doing what he loved:

Being a horrible horrible person, and a blight on humanity.

[–] Envy@fedia.io 100 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He died in the midst of what he loved: a school shooting.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 3 points 18 hours ago

Gotta be high on the list of most ironic deaths of 2025.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

I guess he was the violent gun death he hoped for to keep the 2A.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (12 children)
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have said it before, and I will say it again.

Empathy is a huge strength, lack of it is a huge weakness.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 89 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Y'all are all about 'shoot Nazis, kill Nazis' until a Nazi dies. Then it's 'Oh but that Nazi had a family.' Fuck off."

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, I feel bad for his kids assuming it ever dawns on them that dad was famous for being a lying sack of shit and left this world after being struck with 150 grains of irony (not sure what actual weight of projectile did him in, but old milsurp seems fitting).

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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