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[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like someone sending actual engines into other places where you can't legally buy it. For example, sanctioned country

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not send the fake parts there if they are equivalent?

[–] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because we live in a neoliberal hell scape where companies are glad to turn a blind eye to safety regulations if it means saving a couple bucks.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, but wouldn’t the sanctioned countries be similar? It seems to me it was likely a scam to save many where they sold non genuine parts and pretended they were genuine, but evading sanctions doesn’t make sense.

[–] dotslashme 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty sure none of these parts ended up in a private jet.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Much smaller installed base, much less money for the scammers to make.

From the article, just Delta airlines has 2,100 engines in service.

The two planes I know that have been affected by this are the A320 and the 737. Both models have had more that 11,000 built each. So at lease 22,000 planes. (44,000 engines)

By comparison the G650/G700/G800 series (EM's private jet) has a total of... 512.

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Lets outsource everything im sure that will always work out!

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah I have a hard time believing that only less than 1% of their fleet is effected. They are being dodgey as fuck about it. Also any airline would jump at the chance for cheaper parts and these counterfeit parts were probably cheaper than legit parts.

[–] Chunk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yay story time!

One of the 2 SpaceX falcon 9 failures, CRS-7, was caused by the manufacturer claiming a strut (metal pole) was rated to N lbs but in reality its failure point was N/2.

SpaceX sourced the material from an industrial supply company, not an aerospace company, and that company's material testing procedures were less strict. During launch the strut failed and caused a "rapid unscheduled disassembly". Or, as I like to say, an sad boom.

It's a little different than what's going on with these aircraft but it's similar. These companies really need to test the stuff they buy because your supply chain

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

Wow, lets add to the list of reasons I will never get on an airplane.