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The family of Noa Argamani is sharing harrowing footage of her abduction in southern Israel earlier today.

The video shows her being taken away on the back of a motorcycle by Hamas terrorists as she screams “don’t kill me” and stretches her arms out to her boyfriend, Avi Natan, who is also being held by Hamas operatives. They were both attending a festival in the south.

Other footage shows Argamani being held in Gaza sipping from a cup of water.

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[–] Miclux@lemmings.world 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They even kidnapped germans. Any% loose all support worldwide.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Edit: Shani Louk is allegedly alive in a Gaza Hospital.

They even killed them - ~~and paraded a dead woman’s naked body around~~

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/woman-paraded-hamas-fighters-victims-family-urge-people-for-her-whereabouts-2446055-2023-10-08

The murdering of foreign civilians exposes the Hamas claims of only targeting „occupiers“ as a lie. They went on a murdering spree.

I agree with you, this will cost them a lot of international support.

[–] Telescreen@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago

Thing is, I don't think it will cost them support from anyone who's still actually supporting them. These terrorists operate with the stated goal of provoking a war between islam and the entire western world and forcing moderate Muslims in western or westernized states to choose a side.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait did you think Hamas didn't consider the Israelis as the "occupiers"?? Then who?

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never ever thought I would end up defending Israel like that, but to your question:

Hamas constantly claims that they do not target Israeli civilians, which is, by now, evidently a lie.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Wut? Source?

Hamas decided Israeli civilians were fair game in the mid 90's after a jewish extremist shot up a mosque

If you just woke up from a 30 year coma please read up before defending any side here

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They never say she was dead. Am I missing something?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

She's very dead, I saw the unblurred video. Gunshot to the head.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being dead is already implied when they say „the body of a woman“. If you are talking about a living woman, you refer to them as „a woman“.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah why was she naked?! This is still bad, you know this right?

[–] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Probably raped.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

It is absolutely horrible. I'm in no way trying to diminish that.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They didn't know she was German, but yea that quickly wrapped up a lot of support I had for Palestine

[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As if 2007 was the start of issues.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The start of the issue was when Europeans wanted Jewish people out of Europe after WW2 so they stole a shit ton of land that's important to three different religions from the Palestinians and called it Israel...

Then Israel expanding over the decades obviously didn't help

[–] Lupus108@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The start of the issue was when Europeans wanted Jewish people out of Europe after WW2 so they stole a shit ton of land that's important to three different religions from the Palestinians and called it Israel...

That's not what happened. There was a strong desire for a Jewish state in Palestine for hundreds of years, in the beginning of the 20th century this was accelerated through the British mandate and immigration. The real story is way more complex and your representation of it is not only wrong but also negates the agency the Jewish population living there for centuries had in creating the Jewish state.

Of course the horrors of the Holocaust had part in the decision but it was not because "Europeans wanted Jews out"

Like I said the real history is waaaaay more complex, I suggest you read up on it - the History of the British mandate is a got starting point.

Edit: link didn't post for some reason - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love how you got downvoted for posting hrw

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

In the context of his post, the hrw link is just whataboutism -> „but what about Israel“- and you can fuck right off with that

[–] ours@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago

Both sides know they have to weaponize social media.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Talk about a video and not even have it on the page

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Looks like the original tweet was deleted