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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 27 points 10 hours ago

Probably didn't even find the rifle responsible. More reason to believe it was a setup.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 39 points 11 hours ago

Trans-antifascists is something I can support

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I mean, if I was wanting a false flag, that's what I'd do.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 91 points 14 hours ago (4 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can you believe, once upon a tine long long ago The Wall Street Journal actually had integrity in journalism.

Now it's a billionaire's plaything.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Honestly, been alive for forty plus years now and no, they've never had integrity in journalism.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 43 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

My shocked Pikachu face is shocked at this shocking shock.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 127 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi's alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Typically you would engrave the casing. That goes nowhere near the target.

So yeah.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The casing that the shooter took with them?

Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?

This was a CIA or Mossad hit & the shooter isn't even in the USA at this point.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 46 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 12 hours ago (15 children)

So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 12 hours ago

Satanic Panic is back

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 82 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Not seeing other outlets report this. So yeah I'm skeptical.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 77 points 14 hours ago (13 children)

Total BS. Engraving on a small, curved surface, legibly is hard as hell. Then that bullet is going to get grooved in a rifled barrel, and most likely deform or fragment on impact.

We should probably be talking about how Trump used a fucking AI video to address Charlie Kirk's death. There's a good chance Trump is doing this as a false flag

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If it was engraved, it would be on the casing, not the bullet. I imagine many journalists don't actually know the difference, and most readers probably wouldn't as well.

That said, I agree, I don't see why the shooter would spend the time. If there were any markings, I'm going to guess they're permanent marker, because that's way easier to do.

My money is on this being completely bogus. I believe they found the rifle (first rule of murder school is to not bring the weapon with you), but I do not believe they found engraved bullets, because that's kind of ridiculous.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

False flag is exactly what this is.

I’d be shocked if this wasn’t a decision directly from Trump and his magat minions they follow him around to distract from Epstein and further slide America in the hell hole of fascism that it’s facing.

Hurry up Americans. You won’t have an America soon at this rate.

Line item number 2.

[–] alcibiades@sh.itjust.works 40 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (10 children)

No way in fuck they purposely had Kirk assassinated.

  1. His job as a propagandist / hate spreader is way too important and influential to stop
  2. they could’ve martyred a similarly famous, but less influential, republican and gotten the same response
  3. they’re going to go forward with their plan- they don’t need an excuse
  4. this happened in a red state, why wouldn’t they pick a blue state?
  5. I really don’t think Epstein files matter that much for republicans. A video could come out of Trump raping a child and it would be chalked up to ai and they wouldn’t believe it
  6. the news cycle is so short- this won’t remain a hot topic for a long amount of time

It’s a convenient distraction, sure, but it’s been proven time and time again that they don’t need distractions to carry out policy. If there’s any conspiracy to be had, it would be surrounding the (relatively) unanimous rhetoric that his death was a tragedy. When kids die in Gaza everyday, a regular citizen is shot, or someone kills themselves because of financial strain we don’t debate the morals of their unjust death. However when a famous white man is killed he isn’t just a statistic but an example of how awful people can be.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah Crowder would've been the sacrificial pawn. Like, clearly there's some gender stuff going on over there (and therefore risk of defection), very small propaganda power to star power ratio, and generally seems disliked by his colleagues.

Sorta like how if they were going to kill one of their senators it would be Cruz or Graham.

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[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 42 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I hope a trans person did shoot him and I hope they get away with it. Kirk made his living by terrorizing and dehumanizing queer folks and I’m happy he finally got to the FO stage. Hopefully seeing daddy get blown away will ensure his kid doesn’t grow up to be as bigoted and the lesson is learned.

[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh Gods I hope this isn't the case. The right would start foaming at the mouth and could start rounding us up as threats.

It's also... a little ghoulish to speak about a kid losing their parent that way. Whatever you think of the man his kid's grief isn't exactly something to celebrate. I get not mourning the man but celebrating his death isn't going to help us trans folks in the end. I have a feeling that this is going to get a whole lot worse for all of us as a people very quickly and as a whole we're already a group hanging on by our fingertips.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah if a trans person shot him best case is just a pogrom

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 22 points 12 hours ago

I don't. I hope it was a MAGA nutjob or similar so the administration doesn't get a good boogeyman

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

“antifacsist ideology”?

So, what…an American Flag? Right? Right…?

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, what is antifascist ideology? Like, equal rights, being nice,... That kind of stuff?

And transgender ideology? What is that? To be nice to transgender people?

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