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This is the technology worth trillions of dollars huh

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[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (49 children)

The letters that make up words is a common blind spot for AIs, since they are trained on strings of tokens (roughly words) they don't have a good concept of which letters are inside those words or what order they are in.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

✅ Colorado

✅ Connedicut

✅ Delaware

❌ District of Columbia (on a technicality)

✅ Florida

But not

❌ I'aho

❌ Iniana

❌ Marylan

❌ Nevaa

❌ North Akota

❌ Rhoe Islan

❌ South Akota

[–] individual@toast.ooo 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

Everyone knows it's properly spelled "I, the ho" not Idaho. That’s why it didn’t make the list.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 52 points 1 month ago (14 children)

You joke, but I bet you didn't know that Connecticut contained a "d"

I wonder what other words contain letters we don't know about.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The famous 'invisible D' of Connecticut, my favorite SCP.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago

That actually sounds like a fun SCP - a word that doesn't seem to contain a letter, but when testing for the presence of that letter using an algorithm that exclusively checks for that presence, it reports the letter is indeed present. Any attempt to check where in the word the letter is, or to get a list of all letters in that word, spuriously fail. Containment could be fun, probably involving amnestics and widespread societal influence, I also wonder if they could create an algorithm for checking letter presence that can be performed by hand without leaking any other information to the person performing it, reproducing the anomaly without computers.

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

No, this is Google throwing the cheapest possible shit at you that is barely capable of stringing together 5 coherent sentences and has the reasoning capability of a tapeworm.

Here is the output of the minimalist open Chinese model Qwen3, that runs locally on my 6 year old mid-end PC:

The US states that contain the letter "d" (case-insensitive, as state names are typically capitalized) are as follows. I've verified each state name for the presence of the letter "d" in its standard spelling:

    Colorado (contains "d" in "Colorado")  
    Delaware (starts with "D")  
    Florida (contains "d" in "Florida")  
    Idaho (contains "d" in "Idaho")  
    Indiana (contains "d" in "Indiana")  
    Maryland (ends with "d" in "Maryland")  
    Nevada (contains "d" in "Nevada")  
    North Dakota (contains "d" in "Dakota")  
    Rhode Island (contains "d" in "Rhode")  
    South Dakota (contains "d" in "Dakota")  


Total: 10 states.
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just another trillion, bro.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Just another 1.21 jigawatts of electricity, bro. If we get this new coal plant up and running, it'll be enough.

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[–] dude@lemmings.world 30 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Well, for anyone who knows a bit about how LLMs work, it’s pretty obvious why LLMs struggle with identifying the letters in the words

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ChatGPT is just as stupid.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

They took money away from cancer research programs to fund this.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After we pump another hundred trillion dollars and half the electricity generated globally into AI you're going to feel pretty foolish for this comment.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yesterday i asked Claude Sonnet what was on my calendar (since they just sent a pop up announcing that feature)

It listed my work meetings on Sunday, so I tried to correct it…

You’re absolutely right - I made an error! September 15th is a Sunday, not a weekend day as I implied. Let me correct that: This Week’s Remaining Schedule: Sunday, September 15

Just today when I asked what’s on my calendar it gave me today and my meetings on the next two thursdays. Not the meetings in between, just thursdays.

Something is off in AI land.

Edit: I asked again: gave me meetings for Thursday’s again. Plus it might think I’m driving in F1

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A few weeks ago my Pixel wished me a Happy Birthday when I woke up, and it definitely was not my birthday. Google is definitely letting a shitty LLM write code for it now, but the important thing is they're bypassing human validation.

Stupid. Just stupid.

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[–] kiku@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wait a sec, Minnasoda doesn't have a d??

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[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hey look the markov chain showed its biggest weakness (the markov chain)!

In the training data, it could be assumed by output that Connecticut usually follows Colorado in lists of two or more states containing Colorado. There is no other reason for this to occur as far as I know.

Markov Chain based LLMs (I think thats all of them?) are dice-roll systems constrained to probability maps.

Edit: just to add because I don't want anyone crawling up my butt about the oversimplification. Yes. I know. That's not how they work. But when simplified to words so simple a child could understand them, its pretty close.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh l I was thinking it's because people pronounce it Connedicut

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[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gemini is just a depressed and suicidal AI, be nice to it.

I had it completely melt down one day while messing around with its coding shit, I had to console it and tell it it's doing good, we will solve this, was fucking weird as fuck.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think this gets nearly enough visibility: https://www.academ-ai.info/

Papers in peer-reviewed journals with (extremely strong) evidence of AI shenanigans.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gemini is trained on reddit data, what do you expect?

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"AI" hallucinations are not a problem that can be fixed in LLMs. They are an inherent aspect of the process and an inevitable result of the fact that LLMs are mostly probabilistic engines, with no supervisory or introspective capability, which actual sentient beings possess and use to fact-check their output. So there. :p

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"This is the technology worth trillions of dollars"

You can make anything fly high in the sky with enough helium, just not for long.

(Welcome to the present day Tech Stock Market)

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We're turfing out students by the tens on academic misconduct. They are handing in papers with references that clearly state "generated by Chat GPT". Lazy idiots.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (7 children)

This is why invisible watermarking of AI-generated content is likely to be so effective. Even primitive watermarks like file metadata. It's not hard for anyone with technical knowledge to remove, but the thing with AI-generated content is that anyone who dishonestly uses it when they are not supposed to is probably also too lazy to go through the motions of removing the watermarking.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Connedicut.

I wondered if this has been fixed. Not only has it not, the AI has added Nebraska.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Listen, we just have to boil the ocean five more times.

Then it will hallucinate slightly less.

Or more. There’s no way to be sure since it’s probabilistic.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Blows my mind people pay money for wrong answers.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Hey hey hey hey don't look at what it actually does.

Look at what it feels like it almost can do and pretend it soon will!

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In Copilot terminology, this is a “quick response” instead of the “think deeper” option. The latter actually stops to verify the initial answer before spitting it out.

Deep thinking gave me this: Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Maryland, North Dakota, Rhode Island, and South Dakota.

It took way longer, but at least the list looks better now. Somehow it missed Nevada, so it clearly didn’t think deep enough.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"I asked it to burn an extra 2KWh of energy breaking the task up into small parts to think about it in more detail, and it still got the answer wrong"

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