From this story it sounds lile your mom is both an idiot and a bad person. Sorry you have to deal with that.
this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2025
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Then she was like “no no no you got it all wrong he was giving a speech when someone asked him if more people die from gang shootings or school shootings, then he was shot” even though the thing I was talking about was from 2023.
Conservatives have absolutely no long term memory. They're completely ignorant of any history that doesn't prove their immediate point.
It’s ok some people are dumb. I have family members that funcking stupid.
Hit her with all the memes of his quotes.
Oh dont worry. EVERYONE irl i know is freaking out over this. I just ask. What about the 3 children that were shot in Denver? Do they not matter compared to this person?
These are the same people that asked why I didn't care when James Dobson kicked it. Horrible human.
The media is so damn bought and paid for i cant believe they cant see it.
Facts don't matter to someone like this. She's having emotions. That's the level you need to work on. She probably feels threatened, and like her in-group is under attack. You'd need to get her to see you as in-group before she'll listen.
We're all emotional creatures, but some people seem exclusively so.
He spoke out against the woke people... Ugh.
"Let’s get something straight: if being woke means caring about the well-being of others, challenging systems of oppression, and striving to make the world a kinder place, then we are unapologetically woke. Let the critics sneer. Let them turn “woke” into a punchline. Their disdain for compassion only underscores the necessity of staying true to its core values."
https://thezeitgeistonline.substack.com/p/we-will-always-be-proudly-woke-if
Such a good point. My family has been having the conversation about why this is suddenly becoming a thing , more than other murders, and clearly we haven’t been paying attention to the toxic culture of hatred, divisiveness, outrage. I suppose he had the right to his opinion but we’d all be better off if we didn’t listen to it. Anyway, the Wikipedia entry paints him as a vile human being who helped stoke the flames of our society causing harm to many. I’ll have empathy for his family’s loss but the world seems better off
Remember the public outcry when couple of Dems got shot? Me neither
Or the Denver shooting on the same day. ZERO COVERAGE.
Sorry to hear your mother is toxic and unintelligent.
None of the variations of "woke" have ever been a bad thing to be.
Honestly I’ve resorted to asking them to define “woke” and then break it down and ask them which “woke” attribute they’re against. They usually shut up and go away as, I hope, they realize on some level how stupid they sound saying they’re against basic human decency and rights.
Calling people "kind" just didn't have the same sting to it.
Indeed. Woke is anti-oppression and the system of oppression wants you to go back to sleep.
Charlie actually had tons of examples of why woke is evil. They all happen to be strawmen and fictitious, but he was never short of examples.
Yes, he definitely was anti-crow.
The point of straw man arguments is to then knock the straw man down. You're showing how strong you are against something that isn't real and only scares people who can't tell the difference between a human and an analogue of a human.
It sounds like he was decidedly pro-crow. And then he ate crow.
Crusties spending decades bemoaning the decline of respect and manners among the yoof, suddenly the switcheroo and they now bemoan the yoof for having respect and manners.
They changed Charlies pronouns on Wikipedia to was/were.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. A lot of older people are telling me they learned about Kirk today from the news. American News Media^TM^ are actively whitewashing him, just look up how they're talking about him on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, etc. They're making him seem like a political icon to GenZ/Gen alpha who likes to debate and "play devils advocate", instead of the architect of his own demise.
Charlie said empathy is for cucks. MFW your mom spits on his legacy
Charlie also didn't believe in gun control, so he's gotta be okay with what happened. I don't know how he'd feel about OP's mom disrespecting him like that.
Wonder if she's sad about the school shooting that happened right after.
Sorry about your mum. Have my remote empathy and compassion
You should be pissed at her for failing to agree with you that Charlie Kirk was a nazi piece of shit who had it coming.
Your mom's a fucking moron
Should Nazis be shot?
Melee is also acceptable.
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: Yeah.
Does the space pope wear a hat?
Is the space pope reptilian?
Are reptiles Catholics?
Is the space Vatican hiding the Illuminati?
Charlie Kirk was not a war criminal. Saying callous things about shooting victims and being a MAGA supporter should not be punished with death.
Fascists control all three branches of the United States federal government, as well as many state governments.
Today, there is one less fascist, and the remaining fascists are afraid. I'm not going to clutch my pearls about that, especially not for a guy who's said that some gun deaths are acceptable as long as we're protecting gun rights and that "empathy" is a "bad word."
Do you think you can end terrorism by killing all the terrorists? Or win the war on drugs by killing all the drug dealers? What makes you think the fight against fascism is any different? We still live in a democratic society. The "fascists" were elected by the majority of the American people, so either the majority of politically active Americans (and Europeans) are fascists or you are being hyperbolic with your language. If elections are suspended, I think there is no alternative to political violence. Until that happens, we should work to unwind Trump and his political movement through nonviolent means.
Also, fascists aren't scared they are angry. You think Trump is gonna get scared and roll back his policies? No, they are going to double down on everything. This perfectly fits his narrative that force is needed to take America back from the radical left.
Other fascist talking heads are cancelling appearances. Speaker of the House talking about how everyone is scared and heightened security. Yeah, they'll double down, but they're still scared.
... so either the majority of politically active Americans (and Europeans) are fascists or you are being hyperbolic with your language.
I'm not being hyperbolic, but the majority of politically active Americans (I can't speak for Europeans, but I expect them to be roughly the same) are easily duped.
If elections are suspended, I think there is no alternative to political violence. Until that happens, we should work to unwind Trump and his political movement through nonviolent means.
Ah, so we're in agreement about what needs to happen, we just disagree about where the line in the sand is.
e: Just to be clear, we're on the same side, you and I. All efforts great and small.
Fair enough I guess, although keep in mind that if you think present day-America has crossed the Rubicon, you would also have said "welp democracy has failed we have to kill the political opposition" about 20 times throughout American history, and been wrong on all but 1 occasion.
We can make all the Constitutions and laws and social norms we want, but if enough people decide to ignore them and eliminate their opponents by any means necessary, those people will take power. All it takes is numbers, capability, and will.
The previously referenced federal government and state governments are ignoring those documents and norms already. They have the numbers, capability, and will to do so. They are already using violence to eliminate their opponents by disappearing people to foreign gulags without due process. SCOTUS has ruled that it's fine to use the Family Guy Color Scale to arrest people.
The fact that America keeps coming back to this, with more vigor every time, suggests that if there had already been drastic change in the past, we wouldn't be where we are today.
I would have been laughing in her face for saying something so fucking stupid to me. It’s what I do to my dumb ass mom
At least you can agree now that there was a good moment in his life, too.
People can have different political views than you- even views you know are wrong and abhorrent- and still be good people. In fact, in today's political and social media environment its remarkably easy to end up being radicalized one way or another. I know you're not asking for advice but I think it's worth expressing to your mom that you love her regardless of politics. You don't have to agree with her views or even accept them, but I don't think it's worth damaging your relationship with her over a political disagreement.
"All those people on the right baying for the blood and/or subjugation of queer, trans, and non-white people are good folks if you just look past their vile and hateful rhetoric."
Enlightened centrist bullshit.
Bullshit. You absolutely can quit your family if they are harmful to your wellbeing.
Hey internet stranger. That sucks. You are a good person and sorry you have to be in this situation.
Good. You shouldn’t have sympathy for fascists.
Tell her to fuck off honestly.
I wish I did before mine died a couple weeks ago. I missed the chance.
Did you mean blanking or blocking?