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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 223 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (88 children)

Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 3 points 17 minutes ago

https://archive.is/I9QpJ

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

Play stupid games, win stupid prices...

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 5 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

I get the strong feeling that this shooting was done by a professional.

  • 1 single shot from over two hundred yards away
  • shooter escapes like a ghost, and it doesn't seem like the police have found any evidence he was even there.
  • a separate person seemingly providing a distraction so the shooter can get away and the police just him go.

Makes me wonder a few things

  • was this a false flag? (seems most likely) - especially when you consider the context of trump wanting to send military into US cities and the Republicans voting against releasing the epstein docs on the same day. This shooting was an absolutely fantastic distraction and could easily be used by trump to promote his usage of military against US cities.
  • was this sponsored by someone
  • was this another country?
  • if the shooter escaped so easily, how likely is it that he does this again somewhere else?
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 minutes ago

Shit birds attract shit storms, Randy.

[–] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 19 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I highly suspect Trump will get "intel" that the shooter is hiding in a blue American city like New York or Chicago and take it over with the military. I think he will use this to escalate his military take over of cities.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 2 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

Yes, these news is a step further in the spiraling towards a fascist state in USA and a step closer to the WW3.

I wished to die before this, but we are now speedrunning it.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

Rest in piss.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Left-wing streamer Kyle Kulinski says Charlie Kirk was feuding with nazis to his political right before he was killed.

Right-wing Pundit Clayton Morris shares rumor that Charlie Kirk was concerned Israel was going to kill him, and that he was wearing body armor when he was shot.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 24 minutes ago

If it turns out it was an Israeli/Nazi joint effort, I will break my ribs from excessive sardonic laughter.

[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 3 points 44 minutes ago

Charlie had 8 armed security guards with him. Makes you wonder if that was an increase because of said issues or his usual entourage.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 minutes ago

That explains why the state of Israel was in Utah yesterday on Google maps.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm somewhat surprised that the Trump Administration went this far to distract from the Epstein files.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

I'm not at all surprised.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 54 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Interesting reflection of Lemmy demographics that I haven't seen much "But he has a wife and kids, we shouldn't be celebrating his death uwu" rhetoric. Apparently even the most staunch centrists here acknowledge the harm Toiler Paper USA has done to the US populace.

There's some insane laundering of his legacy going on now over on Reddit and through American news outlets though, as if he didn't call Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" or dismiss school shootings as a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment. MSNBC even fired a political analyst over calling him "divisive."

I'm not one of those people who blame every ill of the world on the "neoliberal cucks" or whatever, but damn if they don't have a point regarding the corporate capture of the United States news media currently.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 2 points 30 minutes ago

meh let the babies have their bottles. He said it himself as you posted that shootings are a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment so he went out, as far as I'm concerned, exactly as he would have wanted. He died for his cause so why should I or anyone else care?

One less Nazi.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 2 points 45 minutes ago

That's true, there isn't much sadness going around. It reminds me a bit of the reaction to the healthcare CEO shooting.

I remember the take that resonated with me the most was in a piece by Josh Johnson at that time. He first told a story about a friend named Marty that had died from disease. "Brian Thompson was a human being. He was a husband, a father. Ok. So was Marty." It feels the same this time around.

It is sad that a person died. It is sad that kids are now left without a father. But you can simultaneously acknowledge that the person who has died has actively helped to create more people who lost their loved ones. And once you do that, it is hard to hold up the general sympathy.

It's not my thing to celebrate the death of a person. No matter how evil. I cannot wholeheartedly yell out good riddance. But weighing one against the other, I can't force a tear.

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