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I actually just want to know more about the actual lobster fight...

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Explanation: In the Spanish Civil War in the mid-1930s, the two major fascist regimes of the period - Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany - got involved on the side of the Nationalists, and the Stalinist USSR got involved on the side of the leftist Republicans (not always helpfully, as seen in the insistence on purging anarchist allies). All three refrained from 'outright' war, instead opting to supply equipment and 'advisers', hoping that it would be enough to tip the scales in favor of their chosen side.

Ultimately, the nationalists won, ushering in a period of some ~40 years of fascist rule, ending only with the death of the dictator Francisco Franco.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In the image I miss two other countries giving money to Germany to bet: UK and US.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Neither the UK nor the US supported the Nazi government even at this early period, and both joined the arms embargo on Spain.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Except Texaco gave gasoline to Franco, UK had contracts with the traitor's side BEFORE the war ended, Ford was pro-Franco, IBM was making businesses with Germany, ...

"Oh, it's not the country! Only the biggest business in the country!"🤮

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"Oh, it's not the country! Only the biggest business in the country!"🤮

This may come as a surprise, but yes, the government and businesses are often angling towards different interests.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Had it been the case then the US government would have stopped them. There was a "no intervention" law. But it seems it only applied to the Republic.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Had it been the case and the US government would have speed them. There was a "no intervention" law. But it seems it only applied to the Republic.

The embargo only applied to arms, hence why the Republic also was able to purchase large amounts of dual-use goods from the US. Not only that, but arms sales to the fascists were actively denied by the US government.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They had the Germans for that.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So you admit that the US government did stop businesses which intended arms sales to the nationalists and that the US businesses selling to the Nationalists were not operating under a double-standard where they were forbidden from selling to the Republic, contrary to what you initially claimed.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 0 points 1 hour ago

Find any help of any type from a US business to the Spanish Republic.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the memes and the explanation every time! I often learn something new (and I’m often reminded of the limits of my knowledge!)

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The more we learn, the more we realize the vastness of the field we're studying.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The more you know, the more you know what you don't know.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Nah, I know everything about everything! - Dunning Krueger