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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Original source:

https://gamesfray.com/last-week-nintendo-and-the-pokemon-company-received-a-u-s-patent-on-summoning-a-character-and-letting-it-fight-another/

I hate to be nitpicky, but try to link the original, and post where you found it (GameRant) in the description instead.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

Wtf is with all these patents being granted literally decades after the original concept was implement and if patented then (despite the generic unpatttenable concept) would have already excited by now?

[–] griD@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago

Insane. I summoned shit in video games 40y ago. Fuck you.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

What's interesting is they file this in the US.

Is there a reason they don't file patents in Japan instead?

[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Copyright and patent laws need to die.

I wouldn't say it needs to die but it does need changing quite a bit

Nintendo suing Cloud for summoning Bahamut next

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure there's prior art on that now.

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

The article seems to touch on this saying patent offices struggle to find prior art since they look at previous patent documentation, not previous games.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 180 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nintendo has no fucking shame.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The real problem is people supporting them..

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven’t given Nintendo a dollar in 30 years now. Not since my last N64 game purchase.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People complain about their practices then when they release something they go suck their dicks

People complained about switch 2, people still bought it

People complained about $80 games, people still bought it

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I won't mind sommuch, If their games were even remotely worth $80. But they're not, let's face it, if it's a competition between yet another mairo cart and a steam deck plus a few indi and AA titles, it ain't even a competition. The high cost of the steam deck is offset by the low cost of the games.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not sure steam deck would even be considered “high cost” since you can get a refurbished unit directly from steam for about half the price of a switch 2.

And even a brand new one is still cheaper.

Plus there are parts and instructions available on how to fix and replace pieces yourself should that ever be needed, unlike some drift issues from Nintendo’s controllers where they basically tell you to spend more money or get bent.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not me. I never buy anything new. I’m a eBay expert.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They don't mean you. They mean the people in the Nintendo communities who downvote and mod even the slightest criticism of their precious company.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 1 day ago

I haven't bought a console since the game cube, and bought a switch for my nephew. When i saw the prices of the games, i was a bit confused. Why is a 8 year old game still full price, why does it have the most disgusting dlc system i have ever seen and so on. I asked that in a nintendo sub Reddit. It wasn't reddit, but i don't remember where. People there were insane tbh. They defended their previous nintendo to the death. Their answer to everything was basically: buy the game and dlc and shut the fuck up, it's worth it.

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah but at the same time those people are already tech braindead. Maybe the people that has to go against them it's not the tech brain dead but the people that care about tech ethics. For example, game developers not accepting porting to Nintendo platforms.

I really don't get why indie devs sign contracts with Nintendo, when Nintendo literally holds tons of blood in his hands from destroyed indie games by demands.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago

They haven't gotten a cent of my money since probably the 3DS, but then again I bought my LL used.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 day ago

All good, I’m currently lodging a patent on lodging patents for a system for summoning a character.

See you in court, Nintendo!

P.S.: I’m also lodging a patent for a system of pirating every single game on a Nintendo platform (past, present and future), however I will be opening that one up to the public once granted.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's nothing. My parent covers thinking of already long established ideas, then claiming them as your own. If you do that, I've got you.

Apple are doomed.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This happens a lot. Its where yoga came from.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way that holds up when challenged. Gacha games alone prove existing work.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe existing work doesn‘t matter much in Japanese patent law for some reason. You either have patented it or you haven‘t. That‘s what we‘ve been seeing with this lawsuit again and again. Honestly, Pocketpal should consider moving to Singapore or something to avoid this bullshit.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is US law

On September 2, the Japanese gaming giant was issued a U.S. patent that covers a somewhat broad implementation of a system for summoning characters into battle. Identified by patent number 12,403,397

Absolutely ridiculous this was even granted. What is the point in the system if people are just going to be allowed to patent general ideas and vague concepts. How about I got patent my idea of a gun game. See you in court every game with guns.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Alright, that was unexpected. To be honest it doesn‘t even make sense. I’m assuming they‘ll lose that patent in trial as quickly as they got it then. How ridiculous.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's hope so, because this sounds like it could be pretty disastrous doesn't it? But who's gonna afford challenging Nintendo?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision, or Square Enix would be my guess.

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I think this patent was given in the US

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure SMT has prior art.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah but how many devs and studios can take Nintendo to court to prove that and win?

Most cannot afford to play in our legal system, so Nintendo wins here.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp there goes Coromon, Palworld, and a WHOLE lot of indies. Plus wasnt digimon the first not Nintendo?

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think shen megami tensi didn’t before them. Dragon quest might have, but I’m not sure about that one.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago

Digital Debil Story Megami Tensei 1989 beats Pokemon, so Atlus should 100% sue Nintendo to give them a taste of their own medicine.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Can confirm, DQ5 (1992) had monster catching. Not sure if I'd call it summoning, but Pokemon took clear inspiration from that game in particular.

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