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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I went to the hospital for a cough (it was ultimately pneumonia). It was a holiday so Drs weren't open.

During intake they determined I was a "threat to myself and others", detained me, and drugged me.

They tried to make me foot the bill and sent me to collections without any prior notice months later.

I disputed it with credit. And explained the situation, how I was held against my will and how they exceeded the scope of care.

The credit bureau surprisingly sided with me and cleared my credit of any wrong doing.

I later found out that several American hospitals were needlessly drugging adolescents and it was a huge problem.

[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The lack of oversight for sectioning someone for anything is very scary. There is no way to fight it really and also YOU have to foot the bill. Let alone the trauma of being held against your will.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

100%. I'll never ever step foot in that hospital again.

They denied me phone calls to my family for over 24hrs so they were worried and looking for me.

I'll never forget the slap in the face when I got out and they billed me 50$ for a grilled cheese sandwich and saltines.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 24 points 6 days ago

In the USA, they care more about the health of your wallet than your health.

To any Euros reading this: yes, it's that bad. Even worse, most people call it "the best" system in the world.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I recently had my first medical emergency, and I'm in the USA. It actually is pretty abysmal.

In my case, I wasn't literally on death's door, but I had an injury that I could not stop the bleeding from (and obviously could not tell how bad things were).

So, the first responder was able to control the bleeding during the ambulance ride. And once that part was done, they moved right into the ID, billing info, and insurance info right there in the ambulance.

I still needed additional emergency care, of course. So, we arrive at the emergency room, they check my vitals, and then as soon as the nurse is done with that part, and before I received any treatment, they were asking me for the same ID, billing info, and insurance questions.

Even with insurance that costs nearly $1,000 USD a month, I had to pay entirely for the ambulance ride and the emergency room doctor's fees (both were classified as out of network), as well as the co-insurance (20% of the inflated "insurance" cost for treatment that was "in-network"), and so on.

So I can understand why this type of advice is going around.

On the other hand, if your emergency room visit requires follow-up care and/or prescription medication, giving false (or no) identifying information will complicated that part so I hope you have good black/grey market connections or a relative with a pharmacy's worth of old prescriptions they didn't finish.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The concept of an "out of network ambulance" makes my blood boil

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh, hello, yes you are probably a real human then! Nice to meet you!

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Oh shit they're on to me

Uhhh

Health insurance provides an important service to the economy, making sure that consumers have access to a variety of providers. Really it's about protecting Americans' freedom of choice when it comes to their health and bodies!

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have you even considered public healthcare?

I mean, c'mon... No other country in in the world goes through that shit....

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 15 points 6 days ago

We have.

We as a collective society said we want that for the past two decades.

But then our oligarchy class decided we didn't want it so now we don't have it.

[–] scruffy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, fuck you. You think we don't want public Healthcare? You think we have any power here at all??? You think our votes mean fucking anything?? Christ, the dude in charge of our country is so monstrously evil that his supporters have bumper stickers saying "felon for president". Rich people run our country, no matter what anyone else pretends, and there's nothing we can do because they've slowly over decades made our population not give a fuck. I voted, but ONE THIRD of our country didn't. Get real.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I've upvoted you despite of the *fuck you * sentence. I must recognize you have a point, and understand the anger.

The USA are a total dystopia.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This idea unfortunately isn't a great option for those with chronic illnesses. Having a medical history on file is often critical for recieving the correct care, and you can't have your cake and eat it.

Either they know who you are, your history, and where to bill to, or they don't know who you are, your history, and where to bill to.

As always the real answer is universal healthcare. But I totally get it for those who are in the position to do so.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Bruh, they could just use your blood samples to identify you.

Also, the US could soon change its laws to no longer require hospitals to treat you for an empergency, so they could ask you to pre-pay, like they do in State-Capitalist PRC where I'm from.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

<.< What use is a blood sample if my DNA isn’t in the system?

“Yes this appears to be an A type blood individual with high cholesterol” good luck with that.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It's real easy. They're gonna have a different nurse ask you every 15 minutes for your insurance information, and if that fails, they'll assign a social worker to sit with you and begin applying for medicaid benefits on your behalf. They will slowwww your treatment because they know you aren't indigent and this point, you're either crazy or playing them. They may call for a transfer to a psychiatric hospital, they'll certainly be making moves at this point you want to avoid. They know how to get their money. Charity care isn't just a pot you can freely dip in or we'd all be doing it.

But I like the spirit of the thing.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 181 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I had to think about this for an embarrassingly long time before I realise this was America and they don't have the NHS. In the UK you should absolutely provide your identity to the hospital, so it can go on your medical record.

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[–] three@lemmy.zip 145 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When I'm having a medical emergency at home, my first step is always to get into my car and drive at least 5 miles away.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You fool, driving your own car. You need to drive the car of someone unrelated to you.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

In case people are missing the joke the reason is so that they can't find you to bill you.

This doesn't actually work quite like this, but it's a funny joke none the less.

Especially if you've been to that hospital before. And if you have any medical records anywhere.

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 55 points 1 week ago (7 children)
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[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I like this idea but I struggle to believe it would work.

Went to the hospital for a kidney stone a few years ago. When I was released, 3 security guards crowded the front door to the hospital and wouldn’t let me leave for an extra hour and a half because they were adamant I had to pay my bill then and there.

They had all my information, didn’t even bother trying to go through my insurance, just “no, you owe us 2400 right now” and threatening to call the cops.

Me, a 110lbs woman fucked up on dilauded was ready to tussle but ended up paying before I left cause I didn’t want to deal with the police.

They ended up charging me, and then my insurance as well. I talked to my insurance who then bullied them into paying me back. Took 6 months but I did manage to get paid back.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You people live a dystopia.

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don’t worry, we’re painfully aware.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Pfffft not enough of us. Conservatives will go "B-B-BUT CANADA WUD MAKE U WAIT A BAJILLION YEARS FOR A BRAIN EXPLOSION"

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago

Holy shit, that's insane. No wonder the US has triple the healthcare spending of their peers with worse health outcomes.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bravo for the insurance provider, then... I guess?

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

Yeah for real, the hospital gave no shits until the phrase “insurance fraud” came up and suddenly everyone was super nice and accommodating 😮‍💨

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck??? I’ve never heard of anything like this! Damn, I’m sorry that happened to you. Was it a for profit hospital or in the south? I’ve never even heard of something like this happening at all…

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This was a for profit religious hospital known for their poor ER performance but it was the closest one and I was throwing up from pain in my mom’s backseat so we figured how bad could it be.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

"For-profit" hospitals and prisons make my blood boil

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