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ROFL this thread is hillarious. OP sure picked the wrong instance to ask their question.
(For fuck sakes: Please do not ask questions (expecially questions that may involve politics) in TankieLiteEdition.ml, aka: lemmy.ml)
"China is a democratic country"
I have seen things like this lately, like "communism is democratic", I wonder if there is some specific agenda behind it.
well in theory Russian communism based its power on local soviets aka counsils
in practice, that function did not last ta few years.
True, but still not democracy. Hah especially not in practice ofc.
i'm sorry but i'm downvoting for absolutely cursed mandarin even though i disagree with this cowbee claim.
Emm, i'm not seeing any issue here tbh. It's basically mean "please be obedient little comrade, mr.cowbee is giving a lecture here".
But yeah the english translation is kinda not match the tone of the mandarin.
i mentioned what problems i have with the mandarin on its own
I mean on the second paragraph, they're not entirely wrong. Chinese citizens do generally seem satisfied with the country and the quality of life there could be far worse. China isn't democratic on a national level, it does have local elections with approved candidates.
It just depends how much you care about your freedom of speech, which is a common western value.
Personally, I think the status quo on China isn't too bad.
Its much harder to find income in China, which is why my parents decide to immigrate to the US. (And before anyone says "socialized healthcare" nope, AFIAK, you don't get free healthcare, at least not when my parents and I left)
Yeah, definitely not free. When I was working there I had to have an employer-provided health insurance plan to be eligible for routine care. No different from the US.
There is a state Medicaid/Medicare type of social insurance plan in China, but it really sucks and barely covers anything. Almost like Medicaid/Medicare.
The other crappy part about trying to get healthcare in China is that you never know when someone is about to try to sell you some TCM woo when you're just looking for antibiotics.
TCM
Oddly enough, 凉茶 sort of works?
Maybe a placebo idk 🤷♂️
But yea my grandmother want to boil some weird herbs/animal organ... like... no thanks.
I have no idea if those stuff they sell at the TCM shops with those weird herbs actually do anything, but it taste bad and I have yet to hear from scientists talking about it, so nah, its just very bitter (or otherwise weird tasting) "soup" for unknown effects.
(I say "herb" but actually I have no idea what those plants things are, just search "traditional chinese medicine shop" and you'll see what I mean. There are like tons of those in New York City lol.)
These TCM stuff is kinda fucking with my depression, because my parents are very skeptical of "western" medicine, especially antidepressants which affects the brain, so they do not want me to take medication for depression. And I'm still a dependent on their insurance, and I have to rely on them to pay for medical bills. They think its some evil spirit or something... 🤦♂️
So yea idk what to do, depression sucks, especially with the ongoing US wave of xenophobic policies by the current administration.
I love a good tea when I have a sore throat, because it helps alleviate the scratchy/coughy sensations.
But I'd also like some goddamn amoxicillin when I have strep, please.
I have a Chinese friend currently living there and is unemployed. They have said there are no benefits.
They still don't have free healthcare. Although from what I hear, it's substantially better. Someone I know spent a week in hospital in China, and was charged £500. Insurance paid for it all. Granted, they are paid less on average, but U.S. healthcare costs are ludicrous. I do believe China is struggling with an employment problem, though.
Is it also something like "you get free healthcare if you bribe the doctors?"
Idk what exactly do you mean by "bribe the doctors".
Everything is out of pocket, you have to pre-pay for everything.
Its a common TV trope in Chinese drama shows that someone can't pay for for an expensive emergency procedure, and then they somehow find a long lost relative (or a friend or something like that) and ask them to pay for it. Like... lmao, its got the Squid Game feel to it
Ah, okay, because that's what I hear happened in my country. Literally, you had to bribe your way in to expect decent health care conditions and fair treatment - either with money or with products that were hard to find on the market. Bribes continued after 1989 as well, but not so much, and the newer generations reject being bribed altogether.
Personally, I think the status quo on China isn’t too bad.
except for those under the threat of imperialism
Who?
Those victims of the Belt and Road Initiative, Mongolia, Tibet, Hong Kong, Uyghurs, and probably Taiwan later
and that's just modern imperialism
Victims of the belt and road initiative? Mongolia also was granted independence ages ago.
The other ones you listed are regions that are part of China.
Suppression of some local cultures, sure, but that's not really "imperialism"