I've contacted them yesterday evening. Funnily enough, all the AfD opposes chat control. They're clever. If chat control were to pass, they could campaign on having opposed it, and then mission creep it once elected.
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The site failed at the last step... Fortunately all my reps are opposed
I'm just so tired of it all. At this point I would not be surprised about ending up in prison a decade from now for using encrypted communication.
This is the worst thing in ages. I'm 50+, very good with IT, and I understand that we MUST act against it.
But I'm tired, boss.
Surrounded by lemmings and sheep that love Facebook and WhatsApp. People are stupid. I don't have the energy to fight so much ignorance and stupidity - willful or otherwise.
Just a few years older, in IT as a career, and absolutely the same.
You know what though, when encryption was first developed in the form of pgp, the whole point was that it was to sidestep the government being able to spy on you.
Perhaps we just need to accept that we need to take encrypted communication into our own hands and not rely on messaging apps to protect us
The issue came down to ease of usability. PGP simply wasn’t plug-and-play, hell it wasn’t even easy to set up. And most importantly, it absolutely depended on the other person having the same configuration.
As messaging platforms like Signal has shown, security and encryption needs to be transparent and unnoticeable. It needs to be totally frictionless and thinking-free in order for the average Joe to want to use it.
And that is even before other issues such as platform stickiness, which Signal has issues with.
Also, they keep trying. You fight it one year, they're back the next. Extremely undemocratic.
Precisely. You need to keep winning, while they just need to win once. Would love it if repeat offenders like these would just stop being considered entirely after being rejected multiple times.
I'm overwhelmed by this stupidity and collective ignorance all the time. Not just in data privacy regards.
Some days I just want to give up and say "screw it". But damn, I can't. And a lot of others will not stop. If you do, thats alright, it is okay to rest.
Thank you, kind stranger.
The provided link will let you contact MPs with just a few lazy clicks.
It's ironic to use a meme from a movie depicting a fascistic government, to protest against a fascistic measure.
I suppose the better meme would be "it ain't much, but it's honest work"
Thanks for sharing the link to contact the MEPs. Thats actually very useful.
Any Dutch people here? Follow nerdvote.nl, to help decide who to vote for this election. They are suggesting technical minded people should unite and form a block in elections, so that parties will try to cater to us. If you want our vote, come up with plans an proposals to create digital sovereignty and freedom. As a member of PVDA/GL I am probably voting Barbara Kathmann , as she is fighting for digital sovereignty. Without preferential votes she probably won't make it in so your preferential vote matters!
Ok how do they plan to enforce that?
By banning HTTPS at the ISP level?
Edit: and then how do they enforce GPDR? Because you better believe everyone and their mother is going to snoop on every communication made.
By forcing Whatsapp Signal etc to implement backdoors
Signal wouldn't, or if it did, it would be labeled as such as an insecure fork for EU conpliance only and make that fork stale immediately.
Blocking HTTPS would be frighteningly hilarious. My employer is one of thousands of websites that utilizes HSTS, which tells web browsers to use HTTPS. Our implementation of HSTS, like lots of banks etc. is also listed with HSTSpreload, which means browsers like chrome will only ever use HTTPS with our site.
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This would not break encrypted messaging but forbid it.
What if I just transmit a bunch of random ass digits to someone?
And, now listen, what if the someone has a bunch of these numbers in his backpocket, and by complete chance, when added to your number, it gives a number that might just mean something.
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In many cases this could be argued as unconstitutional.
In germany, it's not technically unconstitutional (i checked last week because i assumed it should be) but it definitely feels like it should be unconstitutional. After WW2, there was a consensus to not surveil your own population, and this is a very important constraint to keep in mind.
In Lithuania privacy is defined as a fundamental right and it includes correspondence, digital or otherwise.
Would that prevent passing laws enabling chat control? Doubt it, but I can see it as a good legal argument against it.
Where did you check that? The Vorratsdatenspeicherung has been ruled unconstitutional twice for example
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I'm not an EU citizen yet, and as a non-citizen brown man, i doubt the MEP would listen to me. How can I do my part anyway?
Oh shit - I thought they dropped this! JFC, EU! What TF are you doing?
There seems to be some kind of group repeatedly pushing this crap every other year, with increasingly shady tactics.
I would for sure like to know from where this emanates...
It's the pro-surveilance people that want to monetize your data. They try and lean on fear and push this "only ISIS uses Signal" narrative that is obviously false.
It's just so preposterous - businesses and payment processors rely on e2ee just as much as anyone else does. The one time we're on the same team they just want a carve out for businesses or something I expect.
So that's why their quiz is stacked this weird way:
Yeah, I think this whole survey is written in a somewhat suggestive way. Even more important to fill it out
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Not enough people are aware of just how evil Peter Theil really is
Agreed. I’ve tried to tell people about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment but friends and family brush it off like it’s some small cult thing instead of being silently funded by billionaires
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Also get those MPs imprisoned
One point of hope is that they mandated cross platform chat compatibility too, and every platform is just... Ignoring it and not doing it with zero consequences.
Maybe this just also won't happen.
Of course chat control would be practically infeasible. But it's not even about that. It's about the simple fact that the EU commission ignores the will of the people, when the people have already clearly said NO. It's about the disrespect that the EU commission exerts against the people. That in itself is unacceptable.
Feeling hopeful about giant tech companies ignoring attempts to reign them in is unwise, even when it occasionally lines up with something you personally want. And I even say that as someone with permanent distrust of the big power structures doing the regulating.
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