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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So Branch straight up fucking lied about open sourcing it.

If they didn't lie they wouldn't have asked the founding developer to stop.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Mozilla promised to open-source Pocket and they closed it without doing so also. It's common. Google did open-source Pebble stuff a decade later, so it's never too late!

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It was already dead for a lot of users when they sold it to an analytics company in 2022.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 day ago

I stopped using it then and I actually thought they went under, huh.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Yep - and I recall arguing at the time with one of the Nova people sent to Reddit to try and sell us on the idea that everything was just fine, and nothing would change, and hey, look over there, a huge distracting thing...

It was bullshit then, and so it's proved. What a waste of a truly exceptional launcher.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

yeah i didn't know it still exists lol

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

Niagara Launcher is a great, but different launcher. A modern + minimalist Android home screen optimized for one-✋ access and staying focused. Designed by a German team who really cares, believe they group just went fulltime after having been done with university. They also allow you purchase the apk to avoid Google. They have a free version and a trial of the premium version.

https://niagaralauncher.com/

[–] Verax@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Kvaesitso from droidify. Different first but pretty solid.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

I'm fairly new to Android, so have been using Nova on a friend's recommendation since I got my phone. I installed Kvaesitso and can't for the life of me figure out how to make it just look like what I'm used to.

I hate this shit. Why do people have to change my stuff!

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I like ion launcher.

[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

KISS launcher (minimal mode). FOSS available on fdroid.

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I tried KISS but unless I didn't find how to, it didn't have multiple home pages and widgets were limited. I also don't like to type to find an app, it feels like too many inputs :/

[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

I love KISS, its so simple yet has a decent amount of customization. It's all you need in a launcher.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Deny network permissions and keep using Nova until it won't work.

[–] androidisking@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I would have just switched to another launcher at that point. There are plenty of Launchers (Lawnchair) that have all the features Nova had, if not more. Plus, it values privacy and consumer first.

Nova arguably died a long time ago. People only wanted to stick with it this long due to the nostalgia and the fear of letting it go. It's a bloated app full of bugs.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

I hate Lawnchair for some reason. I will try again.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I don't think you even can deny apps network permission on most Android builds anymore. Didn't Google kill that option years ago for the sake of ads? (I'm on GrapheneOS now, where it certainly is possible, but if I remember right I couldn't do it on the stock Pixel OS.)

[–] astagahdragonz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm using firewall features from RethinkDNS to block internet connections per app. Still using Nova Launcher v7.0.58 with auto update disabled.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

GrapheneOS.

So, yes, you're right. But I don't fuck around with stock shit.

You could use netguard, tracker control or rethinkdns for this. Surely there are other apps as well.

I didn't even know google gave this option, been using netguard since 2017.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think you even can deny apps network permission on most Android builds anymore. Didn't Google kill that option years ago for the sake of ads?

The solution to this is rooting your phone. Root allows you to get around those arbitrary blocks.

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[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can still communicate through Google services, even without network permission themselves. If i recall correctly gmaps doesn't really use the network permission, but uninstall Google Play Services and suddenly nothing loads.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Incorrect. I have been running it this way for years. GrapheneOS.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Anyone have any alternatives they like?

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I use Kvaesitso, highly recommended

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I tested a few launchers that were not to my liking, and then I settled on Lawnchair.

I might change at some stage, but so far it's working for me.

[–] Statick@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I installed Lawnchair yesterday, so far, for my needs at least, I like it. It doesn't have a paged app drawer, but I just created folders instead and I'll get used to it.

[–] node815@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I made a switch to Smart Launcher which has been quite fantastic. They don't rely on a subscription model like most other launchers which is a huge plus in my book. They offer quite a bit of options for customizing your screen. Not as much as Nova, but it's still good. I used Nova for a long time as well, but this has made it easier to transition to. Aside from that, Hyperion Launcher has plenty of options as well.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I had Nova Pro back in the day and decided to give KISS a try. It's a completely different philosophy but I ended up liking it and I've been using it for years now. I can't imagine a faster launcher nowadays, it just gets out of your way.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like Niagara. Simplistic. Minimalist.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For full features you need a subscription. For a phone launcher. Hard no.

[–] fafferlicious@lemmy.world -2 points 18 hours ago

We all have our hard lines, and I don't fault yours.

However for the scrollers passing by, they have a lifetime membership of about ~$45 USD. I found it worth it. It was super easy to get used to, and I honestly can't stand any other launcher now.

I like it a lot and would hate to see it die out, so it was easy to justify for me.

[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

KISS is very similar to Niagara, and is FOSS. I have used it for years

https://kisslauncher.com/

https://github.com/Neamar/KISS

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Last release 2022. There are a few bugs that I endured for more than a year, then I moved.

Lawnchair now is my best friend.

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Since the new release of Lawn Chair I have the bug (listed on Github issues) where I can't add widgets, so I'm stuck with Neo Launcher for now

But I can't wait to switch back

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

But last update was 3 months ago?

[–] Praxinoscope@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've found Total Launcher to be an easy 1:1 replacement for Nova and has some useful, additional features

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not FOSS though.

I used it for a while and really liked it, but the not-FOSS aspect didn't sit well, especially since I'm starting to migrate off of proprietary services - including Play services.

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[–] Peereboominc@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

I switched to Smart Launcher. Tried all the recommended launchers for some time but none met my needs. After some time getting used to it and changing the settings, Smart launcher is the one.

[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

KISS, you can find it on F-Droid

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I use Apex Launcher. It's not exactly the same but it works for me.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I moved to Nova because ADW stopped getting supported. I still prefer the latter, and I guess I have no reason to use the former now