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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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    A couple of weeks in, and I'm probably exactly where my chosen distro (Pop OS) is.

    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I abandoned SuSE about a decade ago. There were more than enough reasons to do so. I would not put it anywhere close to "competence".

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    Linux mint for less than a month. Cut me some slack!

    [–] troglodita@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

    Manjaro with no desktop environment, only sway

    [–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    I started out with Slackware, then Mandrake, then I went to Suse, then to Ubuntu, to Arch and then I sadly had to go back to Windows for work. But I have a SteamOS device for myself.

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

    I used Ubuntu and Mint ages ago, used Fedora when I switched to Linux full time a few years ago, and now I'm on Garuda. Basically, I'm aware of "The Valley of Despair" but refuse to enter it. I'm perfectly happy letting distro maintainers do most of the hard work. I have very little interest in raw dogging Arch, but Arch-based distros that put everything together in a nice package are great!

    [–] ShyFae@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

    Definitly a minty

    But with asperations of a suse

    [–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 3 days ago

    I'm in the PopOs stage!

    [–] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    i use nix so i'm of the chart! did not have a system break in a year even when on unstable

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

    Started with slackware, moved to RHL, worked on OL while suffering SuSE for UL and moved to RHEL.

    The only intersect between me and 33 years of Linux is the darkest times groveling through the over-engineered frailty of SuSE while working on UL.

    None of the rest even have a mention here

    Nice chart?.~

    [–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    I think for me the wave has more peaks and valleys.

    I get to the last stage of good knowledge and decent confidence but then something new comes and I feel I'm ready for punishment again.

    My first Valley of despair was Gentoo. 6 months of constantly compiling stuff and rarely using the computer for anything else. But a bit before that it was Fedora. In those early days, updates would continuously break my system.

    In that first round I finally settled for Mint for years. After years of stable Linux Mint, I found my self with time and curious for Arch. And yes, that became the new l valley of despair. But eventually my stable instance.

    But new things come and Wayland and new sound systems replaced what I had in my installation. Arch was again the valley of despair. And moved to Fedora, which is as stable as stable can be. I was traveling for the last two years so, no time to mess around.

    Now back to arch trying to figure out the Wayland/Niri ecosystem. Let's see where I land.

    However, in my dual boots I always have a working installation I'm happy with and another which I mess up with.

    [–] this@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

    Well I use arch for one of my computers and Debian for all my homelab servers, so I guess I'm at both minimum and near maximum confidence simultaneously.

    [–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

    Bazzite / Tumbleweed on different machines, still Ubuntu for homeservers.

    [–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

    Fedora ❤️

    [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Gentoo but free from despair

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    [–] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I use Fedora and openSUSE but I’m not sure if this graph is taking the piss.

    [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

    I think it's just made by someone who loves RPM. Couldn't quite make themselves place Debian in the enlightened group.

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    [–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

    Rare FerenOS shiny

    [–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago

    If I'm using Rocky 10 for my personal laptop did I stray so far off the chart?

    I even have the latest Firefox and emacs running on it!

    [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

    This is pretty accurate, but I skipped MX and only recently took a look at it. Why is it there on the line? So far it seems like the perfect Distro to customize and lockdown for old people low on tech literacy to use.

    [–] laranis@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

    Mint and Arch. Two lowest parts of the graph... Yeah, that tracks.

    [–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    SUSE is German Ubuntu, change my mind.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

    The installer is a little bit less polished for now (until Leap 16.0 with the Agama installer drops as stable release), but generally… I guess? It just doesn't come with Canonical's shitty ideas.

    The problems of (Open)SUSE is in its backend. A lot of tech debt from the days SUSE S.A. was owned by Novell, they screwed up a lot. But their OBS system is solid (explanation: for distro-users it's basically like the AUR), and they don't do silly nonsense with Snaps but stick with Flatpak. Or you know, alias'ing apt install commands to snap install like Ubuntu does…

    It's a really solid choice for a daily driver. Just the Nvidia driver sometimes causes issues, but what else is new.

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    This is quite an accurate meme. I wouldn't call myself a guru, but I'm at the openSUSE stage (Tumbleweed ftw).

    It just strikes the perfect balance of the things I care about most.

    This accurately traces my evolution...

    These days I run Raspbian/Debian on my Pi servers and Fedora everywhere else

    [–] dwt@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

    Now I am intrigued. Where on that line would you place nix?

    [–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

    why is there a Facebook distro twice in here?

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