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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 114 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. These pieces of shit are really feeling emboldened now, like there's not going to be any opposition to stop them. We need to make fucking sure these pieces of shit are left cowering in their homes, and afraid to be out in society. Removed from the herd.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately half the US agrees with him and the other half is a bunch of pants-pissing cowards.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

No. Its about 30%. Too damn high, but it is not half

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know what? It doesn’t matter. It could be 5 percent and it wouldn’t make a lick of difference if the rest of your country sits there with its thumbs up it’s asses and allows it.

If it’s 30% and not 50? Great- the rest of you look even WORSE for not dealing with it. Get off your sofas and start ensuring these people don’t feel safe leaving their homes.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Volunteer with your state and local democrats to help remove GOP scum like Eric Schmitt

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

30% backing a fascist government as the floor is pretty fucking awful. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for the shitty normal conservatives or the centrists who are so terrified to actually have a stance that they’ll fight people with a strong opinion before they fight a fascist.

Absolutely half, maybe more even, are the kind of people who will either cause the problem or do nothing to stop it or even try to tell the good people that they’re being dramatic because they don’t want to face the fact their country is a broken mess.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 5 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Not being bothered to show up and vote against them seems like they agree to some extent.

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[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Timecop, the Van Damme movie, predicted a future US would have a White Nationalist Party. But they only predicted it would get 5% of the vote.

I've decided to stop referring to them as Republicans. From now on I'm just referring to them as Confederates. There's no distinction whatsoever between the two. Their goal is a 21st century CSA.

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[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A lot of the founding concepts of the US from the Declaration of Independence were inspired by earlier native treaties among indigenous nations. Even the highest ideals the US was created to strive for had roots in Native American ideologies.

The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

The idea that the US is a white ethnostate is staggeringly ignorant of both history and present reality.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Where are you bringing this rose colored glasses history of the US from? I mean, that’s a wonderful ideal but ignores a lot of very bloody, violent and horrific suffering of native Americans and black Americans history. As well as the tremendous suffering of many earlier immigrant groups like German and Irish Catholics. Our kids literally died in factories and mines following fantasies like that.

When I hear this propoganda it always makes me think of the Don Bluth film American Tale. They flee the pogroms and sing on the boat over, “there are no Cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese!” Of course, there were cats in America and oppression and poverty and orphans on every corner. As soon as they ran out of one group to exploit they would ship in another and turn them on the new group.

One of my early grade school memories was standing on an island in the Wisconsin River with my classmates learning about how they mass murdered children like me. They were surrendering. They opened fire and killed hundreds of innocents. I don’t think their treatise were very inspiring while the river ran red with their children’s blood. Then we all moved in and built our barns on top of their burial mounds because it was the high ground on the property. Let our dairy cows shit on their ancestors for generations. Remember kids, always sign papers with the white man government.

It’s also absolutely not a mistake that Texas is as racist and horrific as it is and that you see many white Texans running to colonize Israel now. They were sent to Texas to mass murder the Mexican population and overtake the land from the people who lived there even before it was “won” in the “war”. A lot of Irish immigrants partook in it too because it was one of the only ways to raise their social class. Which you also see with the iconic Buffalo soldiers who were black men sent to genocide the Native American population after the civil war to raise their social status as freemen.

I’m primarily bohemian-Czech and German Catholic descent and many of the people from my demographic now live to step on the newest batch of immigrants. That’s the only tried and true American tradition. You even see it with the Cubans in Florida today. They saw themselves as different from other Latino groups because they were established. Germans once beat on the Irish because they were in competition and both beat on the blacks. Labor history is full of these stories. But you also saw them intermarry a lot because they were all on the bottom of someone else’s shoe.

The US was NEVER designed to be a melting pot. It was designed to be a land grab for resources and to exploit various groups of immigrants to make a profit. I mean look out West what they did to Chinese immigrants. They would hang them from cliffs to mine, if they fell asleep they cut their ropes letting them fall to their deaths. And the horrors of the railroads are too numerous to name here.

It’s always been a few rich white protestant families exploiting the newest off the boat group. I love the fantasy of the melting pot because that’s what it should be today. There are a lot of white Americans who are jumping on the bandwagon thinking they’re included in a group they aren’t because WWII Nazism raised their social status in the US. That’s why you see a lot of the poor white immigrants’ descendants clinging to it because it affords them a class they’re locked out of as Germans, Irish, Polacks, Norwegians, Italians or just poor southern European-mutt whites etc. The only prerequisite is that you’re white presenting, a vast “improvement” for those groups that were normally divided by religion, origin, etc. So maybe that’s your melting pot?

The entire US system is designed to exploit immigrants for profit. It was never to “build a great nation together and sing kumbaya my lord into the sunset” as some great bastion of diversity (over the mass graves of native, Mexican and blacks of course). This land is drenched in blood and pain. Don’t erase that or you’re not better than the “ban critical race theory” or the “I don’t see color” folks.

You can’t rewrite the future with lies. You need to hold space for the truth if you ever hope to deconstruct it and build something better. Let’s make that melting pot fantasy a reality but in order to do that you need to first look very seriously at the real current reality. You’re not going to strike down white Christian nationalists by regurgitating their own sanitized version of history. You need to understand where they were born from and what motivates them if you ever want to defeat them.

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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eric Schmitt is a piece of shitt.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every single republican is a vile traitor and should be dealt with accordingly.

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I find it more upsetting that this publication acts as if this is the first time this is ever happened. worse, that the people of this country actually think that this is the first time this has ever happened in the United States.

It isn’t. This is the fourth or fifth time this has happened here.

How could anyone possibly be surprised by this? How fucking stupid are you?

When the electorate becomes lazy and complacent, fascism will always try to take hold. “The people” have no one to blame but themselves. Ourselves.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Agreed. It's time for reckoning by the voters, instead of more blaming the system/ politicians/ lack of good candidates. The system did as it always did, and dumb, lazy voters and virtue signaling sitouts got trump back into office.

Edit: brain fart word

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This. The reporting around things like this are reckless. Half the time it sounds like they’re inadvertently giving a platform to the rhetoric to spread. To normalize something that people already fought down before. But unfortunately many people are ignorant to that fact because many were raised with a revisionist version of history. And most don’t talk to people. Seriously. They don’t listen to family stories of what actually went down in their communities. For better or for worse.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 4 points 4 days ago

At a certain point, the “neutrality” of the press is, itself, taking a side.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Another fucking traitor

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This isn't "full mask-off white nationalist". This is regular dog-whistle white nationalist.

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[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 8 points 3 days ago

Incredibly annoying to read article. Felt like the author was intentionally being ambiguous about what was paraphrasing and what was reading between the lines.

Reading the actual speech it's not so much mask off as it is mask slightly higher. It's still white supremacist garbage but it's just the same white supremacist garbage they've been saying for years. Mask-off means explicit, it's still just implicit.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My own family sees nothing wrong with being white nationalists. Because BLM is a thing they can be racists now. The amount of hate in these people is palpable.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Surprise! They were fascist klansmen the entire time! Jokes on us!

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just went through the transcript and the part that stood out as the worst was the dangerously divisive "America doesn't belong to them. It belongs to us."

This guy should not be allowed to hold office.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

JD Vance recently said the exact same thing.

" His answer is that the nation is fundamentally not based on the idea of equality or freedom or any other ideal. Nor is it accessible to people of all races and religions. "

Well he isn't wrong about that. Fundamentally it was a nation for "new money" people to own.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Schmitt is shit and absolutely full of it. Great neck to break in the upcoming guillotine

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

I wish Jason Kander had a won in MO when he ran.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 3 points 4 days ago (6 children)
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