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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36925956

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

*It's no longer running*

Friendly alert that it's currently Bandcamp Friday - one full day that the site gives 100% of purchases to the artists. It's a good way to support small artists and build up a personal collection.

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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is there a "torrenting for absolute tech illiterate morons" guide out there?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

The absolute basics:

  1. Install qbittorrent
  2. Install a VPN and run it so that all your Internet traffic goes down it
  3. Open a Web browser and search for top torrent sites 2025. There are articles with lists of the big ones.
  4. Go to a torrent site and search for what you want.
  5. Download the .torrent file and open it in qbittorrent OR copy the magnet link and paste that into qbit torrent. Either will start your download.

Always use the VPN when searching and downloading.

There are lots of steps to make it more convenient - things like using a Virutal machine so the vpn and torrent do their thing while you do whatever else you want on your PC, or setting up a docker Servarr stack to make things more convenient, or setting up a Raspberry pi / other device as a servarr stack. But for the basics all you need is a torrent client, a VPN and a Web browser.

All the extra advanced stuff is just quality of life, like being able to leave it downloading securely 24hours a day or organising your downloads better.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 1 week ago

PSA: you may not need a VPN at all, depending on your country or your ISP.

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[–] bigb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Start out simple and stick with a basic BitTorrent client. Figure out where you want to download from and get a torrent client configured. I use an ISP that frowns upon piracy so here's a quick overview:

  1. Look for public torrent sites. I'm out of this game so I don't have any suggestions.
  2. Research private torrent trackers. I don't think I can provide any help with this, but there are other corners of Lemmy who can.
  3. Find a VPN. Everyone has thoughts on this and Proton VPN is the one I'm currently using.
  4. Pick a torrent client. I'd recommend qBittorrent myself.
  5. Configure your VPN to include your BT traffic.

If/when you want to try Lidarr, you'll be much better off knowing the basics of BitTorrent because *arr software is confusing in its own regard. Lidarr is just a tool to organize your music library folders and also automatically queue downloads. It is not a requirement to enjoy downloading music.

Usenet and soulseek are other alternatives.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago

For music, soulseek is a great resource too

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 1 week ago

VPNs are only needed in some countries (e.g. France). They're not needed in every country (i.e. Italy doesn't give a fuck about piracy, unless it's football matches).

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[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My issue is discovery. I'll take a look at what they've done here, but ive never been able to implement a reliable discovery process into my workflow. I still use local music, but my wife is not going to switch until I get at least some reliable and effective discovery built.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I scrobble all my navidrome activity to listenbrainz, which gives a weekly playlist of recommendations. You might have to wait a few weeks before it can establish your tastes depending on how much music you play.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But I need to get those recommendations to automatically populate into playlist in my music app so its all in one place. Thats the challenge. Providing a close to as good service as Spotify.

[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

This post from the self-hosted community is probably what you're looking for, then

[–] Dry_Monk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing that flipped it for me was realizing the Spotify algorithm isn't actually about discovering new music, it's about driving profit. Idealism aside, what that tactically means for music discovery is the recommendations are based primarily around what they want to play, and then secondarily around what you might like.

It means that you're only discovering a subset of music you might like that is profitable to Spotify and their big record label partners.

After realizing that, the Spotify algorithm lost a lot of interest for me. Now I use SomaFM to discover new music. They do curated music channels in a bunch of different genres, and I find that the DJs have a similar taste to mine, so I hear a good amount of new music I'm into.

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[–] axx@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, you don't need that. You want it because it's convenient and we live in a consumerist society where everything "needs" to be "frictionless". Intentionally clicking on an artist's bandcamp page to listen to a recommendation is fine. It's a lot easier than mail order or taking the bus to the record store to buy a copy.

I get what you're saying, but we need to question the parameters of the challenges more often.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I didn't say i needed it personally, I need it if I'm going to get my family members to drop Spotify for my service.

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You don't need those either. You can learn to play an instrument, enjoy music on the Sunday mass, or wait until the local troubadour visits your place.

It's just easier with the record store.

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[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

If you’re fortunate enough to live near a well-funded library, you can peruse their new arrivals section for CDs. That’s how I discover new artists

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[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

I simply just installed Metrolist on my phone.

100 % piracy robbing musicians, but more importantly, robbing Google while circumventing Spotify altogether.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Have they fixed the issues with Lidarr yet?

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago

As far as I can tell, no. I haven't been able to search or import releases since about April.

[–] bigb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'll have to be more specific. :) I think it works well for organizing a music library unless there are issues with this feature that I'm unaware of. Using it to queue downloads was painful for me, so I resort to less automated ways to acquire music files.

Simply put, the *arr software concept works well for downloading movies and TV shows (Radarr and Sonarr). Music just seems to be a little more difficult and I have lots of issues with Lidarr finding music out on Usenet and trackers. I hope that's user error on my part.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the issue they are referring to is that Lidarr's API or interface with the MusicBrainz database has been broken for a few months now, which means it's impossible to search or add new artists/releases to your Lidarr library.

And as far as I can tell, it's still down. I have been unable to use Lidarr for anything since about April, except for finding releases that I had already added to my local database.

[–] bigb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yikes that's a major issue that I coincidentally bypassed by not using Lidarr for the past few months myself.

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[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

So, no. They did not fix it.

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[–] Pzulu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is laziness on my part. I want to tell the Google home to play music.

I should just get a Bluetooth speaker and do this, shouldn't I

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

You need the software, but there’s nothing about that request that should require access to the Internet.

I have a LLM chatbot that controls my Home Assistant and Kodi players. It’s all done locally and the response time is under a second.

On my PC(Arch, btw) I have a global hotkey so I can hold the key to record a message and when I let go of the key it uses a local model to do speech to text and sends the result to the chatbot.

I could probably use a wake word but I’d need to mic up my house and I’d rather not do that. A bluetooth lapel mic and a single button Bluetooth “keyboard” about the size of a key switch (using an ESP32C3 microcontroller) give me the same functionality.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I guess I can be proud of not getting into Spotify at the first place. Instead of discovering new music, I discover older ones which I find more reliable since new music industry mostly suck. Oh, also Bandcamp is fine for discovering indie.

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is so much music today. To say new music sucks is wild

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's my nostalgia talking but what I hear in public is bad, I mean in malls, stores, shops etc. maybe they have a bad taste though. By the way I said the industry sucks not the music. Because of the industry, they're much shorter now (thanks to Spotify I guess), I hardly find a 45 minutes album with whole great tracks.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're just looking at the popular stuff it's going to be shit. My library is filled with artists with just couple thousands of listens per month and it's the shit (to me).

Nowadays everyone can make music and it'll mean more stuff to filter through but there'll be more gems to discover.

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[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Walmart music will always be dull and milquetoast; its meant to be consumed by the nonexistant "perfectly normal" person. You gotta dig for that gnarly hipster shit you're into, but I guarantee its out there somewhere

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[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well I dunno your tastes, but some newer music that isn’t shit (I’m an album listener myself, so I judge by the whole album):

Black MIDI - Hellfire

Adult Jazz - Gist Is

Billy Woods - all three of his newest (one is under “Armand Hammer”, called “we buy diabetic test strips”, the other is “maps,” probably the most widely accessible, and the newest is Golliwog)

Shellac - To All Trains

Fiona Apple - Fetch the Boltcutters

KNOWER - KNOWER Forever

Those few albums span some genres and should cover a lot of tastes. I can add some more if you’re interested, those were just off the top of my head

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I have also moved fully to navidrome. It's slightly less convenient, but it's worth it to deplarform

[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's with lastFM these days? I used it some 20 years ago when they started and they offered free, automatically curated radios (like Spotify ), but then they flipped, thanked the users for the data they collected from listening data and switched to some subscription model

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