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"Yeah but how is lemme any different?"
Because you can't really ban someone from a lemmy instance. The userbase is the type of people to get around rules like that if they want.
you can, but let's ignore that for a moment.
so you got banned from a community on lemmy, eh?
just go join another community with 8k less users and has a new post once every four weeks.
I suppose you could post more on that community, right?
oops, looks like the mod there is the same one that banned you with an alt on a different instance. you're banned here as well.
lemmy is isn't immune to the corruption on Reddit because it's a different platform. it's corruptible because the users are all from Reddit.
humans are trash, that's why we need to shift how moderation functions online.
How do we shift to a new form of moderation? What would that look like? I was rightly banned from a community on my lemmy, but my main issue is that I wanted to apologize and ask for an unban, but there’s no “message the mods” button, and it seems that particular person blocked me.
Sorry, I’m rambling, I don’t think this is what you were talking about…
that is exactly what I'm talking about.
I won't go into too deep of detail, I've covered a lot of it here.
today, the goal of the mod is to prune and remove undesired content and users. this creates high overhead and operational costs. it also increases chances for corruption and community instability.
you have experienced some of this instability. a mod banned you and you had no recourse to correct the behavior. this can also be used by corrupt mods to silence the community at large. I believe there was a post about Reddit having 400 subs modded by the same 4 people or something like that.
the same flaw exists here as well.
I believe that the community should moderate itself. if the content or comment hits a downvote threshold it's hidden/silenced. mods should only get involved as stewards of the community, ensuring that abuses of the system aren't taking place and taking action against individuals that "game the system". they could not, for example, take action unless the silenced user reports it as such. again, if you abuse the system you might be permanently silenced.
notice I keep saying silenced instead of blocked? that’s because we shouldn’t block their access to content or the community or even let them know nobody is seeing their content. in the case of malicious users/bots. the more time wasted on screaming into a void the less time wasted on corrupting another community. in-fact, I propose we allow these silenced users to interact with each other where they can continue to toxify and abuse each other in a spiraling chain of abuse that eventually results in their permanent silencing.
this should be a core tenant to an open forum. anyone can interact, but if the community at large has voted to silence you they shouldn't need to listen to you.
IMO bans should only be used for the most heinous users. users that post illegal content that jeopardizes the community at large. further, those bans should be administered by the instance admin/owner.
Yeah, Lemmy is different, reddit is hell. Lemmy is a little irritating, but Reddit is full of cops and fascists
Kudos. Rarely does an image capture the whole story as well as this one does. Indeed. Of course it makes those of us who remember the good old days feel some grief.
I can't remember her name but there was a woman who was a mod on a bunch of the pet sub and she got caught marketing on how she could bring redditers to business and she go doxxed and drug on the internet for like a month. Today's admins have no problem doing that.
She was the nose of the sleazy camel.
Want to know what's fucked? People on Reddit are openly advocating for Concentration Camps and the Mods have ID gated subs like alcoholics anonymous but if I bring up things like the leader of a sitting political party not only saying we should fund the Taliban with tax payers money but presenting it as a flagship policy for this party, I get my comment removed and my account shadow banned.
That's where we are on Reddit right now.
Their Contributor Quality Score is basically the social media equivalent of a Social Credit Score. Not like karma, it's a whole other system that demands you produce content for them or get shadow banned. It's bonkers.
Jesus that's Dystopian.
I mean it wouldn't be the FIRST time an inexplicably beloved and dementia ridden Republican has funded the Taliban.
i actually knew one of these powerusers in the early 2010s. he had leukemia, and i signed up to be a match to donate spinal marrow for him. i visited him in the hospital a bunch. he hasn't acknowledged me since. that was a real bummer, but, i tend to see friends where they don't exist so that might be on me.
i am a little bummed that i got permabanned just because i was so close to all of the reddit founders and early employees. i personally prevented alexis from getting arrested for trying to openly smoke weed on the street in pittsburgh when it was still the kind of thing that got you put in prison for a few years if your skin is darker than popcorn.
steve huffman in particular is a shitter and always has been. think of that kid you knew growing up who would make up that his dad worked at SEGA and that Goku was going to be in the next Sonic game — that's spez, still, to this day. he is "mr. namedropper." steve, genuinely, i do not care that you saw Beyoncé at the airport.
ETA: since people are being weird about phrasing, i signed up to be a match. his alias back then was Dacvac. i literally sat in bars and watched him mod /r/pics on an iPad. believe me or don't, i'm just some schmoe online after all.
believe me or don't
It doesnt really matter either way but I'm inclined to believe you because you aren't exactly going to get kudos for being close to reddit founders on the fediverse so this is more like a confession than a brag. FWIW I enjoyed the context.
A short video on the subject:
Talks about ex Mods that have since either been defeated, or have just changed their names. "Cyxie", "Gallowboob", "Merari01", "Siouxsie_siousv2" and "Awkwardtheturtle".
Reddit post talking about Cyxie's account being deleted:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/gk569a/cyxie_account_gone/
Fuck reddit.
Gallowboob being a mod in retrospect makes a lot of sense. Fucker was probably taking content, reposting it and deleting the original constantly.
Me: This video of a POS attacking a sleeping person (literally drop elbowing him in the head with the potential of snapping the neck) on the NYC subway with malicious assault says more about all of the people watching and filming while doing nothing about it than the attacker.
Reddit: You are permanently suspended from Reddit.
3 days ago.
Well, you referenced the potential death of a human which their advertisers definitely do not approve of. Luckily for them, the mods caught your horribly violent comment before it could reach the masses. The fact you were only permabanned, and not charged with a crime against humanity, is a blessing indeed!
Please be careful in the future when using words that might make someone else feel something, especially if that person (who you don't know) might have to face an uncomfortable reality. It's only fair that we censor genuine human expression in the name of brand image. After all, the advertisers are what's keeping the lights on around here. If we stopped listening to their demands, god knows what kind of horrible society might emerge.
All extremely valid points, and in the future I will disable all adblockers and self-censor to keep the ~~blood money~~ resources flowing.
Why is Reddit used for anything but porn these days?
It's where people are. If you want to have any commercial success on the internet you almost need a presence on places like Reddit and Twitter
At one point while I was still on Reddit I learned that there was another site that indexed the users with the highest post and comment scores. I looked at the top of the list and saw accounts that were relentless repost monsters. I went ahead and blocked all of them, and my Reddit experience immediately improved, as I stopped seeing the exact same shit reposted over and over, day after day. Then the API-ocalypse came, and I walked away and never looked back.
Digg went sideways because of "power users," among other things.
Eh. There's more than one kind of poweruser. The "people who are too online" are very different from the "accounts that exist to leverage social media for advertisement".
Social media thrives on the whale users who are churning out content and hungry for engagement. It goes to shit when you've got your front page clogged with Native Ads and other shameless marketing gimmicks.
One of my older Reddit accounts was blocked on several top subs for abusing the report button.
One of those super mods posted a photo of someone endangering their pet on multiple subs. The content was literally against site-wide rules but also broke sub-level rules on each of the subs it was posted. I reported the photo on each sub it was posted to separately. Unbeknownst to me at the time, that super mod was a mod of every single one of those subs. So, they had the ability to ban/block me on each one for "abuse".
I permabanned reddit with these additions to my hosts file:
127.0.0.1 old.reddit.com
127.0.0.1 www.reddit.com
Fuck their astro-turfed corporate censorship.
Is it all that much different to Lemmy instances?
At least on Lemmy I can go create my own instance and not have corpo mods forced into it and me forcefully removed. I'd much rather have that with 4 other members than a massive community I risk being ousted from for dumb bullshit any day
I know there's at least one admin that also moderates r/news. That's how I got permbanned a second time. They don't like it when you point out obvious bots.
You'd think Spez's "landed gentry" would have better things to do.
Hmph. As a one time mod or top mod of several "default" subs I can confirm that the image is true.