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[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 250 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else. Like, no shit, dude.

Use your privileged position to make actual change if you care so much. He doesn't though, so he's not going to. Instead, he'll make sure we all know that we can get an entire combo for only $5. Wow! Truly a hero of the down-trodden, this fucking guy. I'd love to be proved wrong, but we all know where this is headed. His virtue signaling doesn't change that, just like it doesn't change that stunt he pulled with potus and all that it so clearly represented. Just more mealy-mouthed lies from another worm in a suit's all it is.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else.

If only someone warned them about this!

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's like, the most classic of Marxism

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pretty sure Adam Smith and Karl Marx both understood that one

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even Henry fucking Ford understood that

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, Ford was horrible, but that's one thing that's reasonable about Fordism. He knew that if he payed his employees well enough then they'd have money to spend. I don't know how the idiots who are wealthy today don't get that, but they assume their wealth is infinite and comes from nothing.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously, this is Economics 101 shit and everyone in a position of power just pretends it doesn't apply for some dumb ass excuse.

The more money people have, the more they will spend.

The more money spent in an economy, the more things are bought, the more opportunities for others to start businesses and make profit present themselves.

The system works better for everyone when money keeps circulating. That's why UBI is becoming a popular solution to this problem.

The majority of money is stagnant in the US.

It has been siphoned from the working class and is currently kept in the assets of the rich.

And it needs to be redistributed for the system to work well again.

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[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 104 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you’re upper-income, earning over $100,000, things are good … What we see with middle- and lower-income consumers, it’s actually a different story.

When had this ever not been true? What a windbag.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 93 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Over $100K ain't chump change, but that also isn't the line where "upper income" starts.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/heres-minimum-salary-required-be-considered-upper-class-2025

The Pew Research Center defines upper-income households as having incomes greater than $169,800, based on three-person households. For a household with a single earner and no additional income, that $169,800 is the minimum salary required to be upper class. With two earners, each with the same salary, that minimum would be $84,900 each.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And the difference between that level of “upper class” vs the truly wealthy is insane.

Unless you’re in places like CA or NYC, $170k allows for a very comfortable life. It’s nothing to scoff at and it is absolutely beyond what most people in this country have.

But when thinking of the “upper class,” I think most people picture lush lives. Mansions, yachts, foreign vacations, private schools, house staff, etc.

I don’t think most people imagine someone who lives in a nice suburban neighborhood, saves enough money for retirement that they actually expect to retire in their 60s, and takes a modest vacation every year. But that’s closer to what $170k gets you. It’s comfortable and it’s a life most people would kill to have. But it’s a whole lot closer to a stereotyped “middle class” experience than it is to what most people imagine “upper class” to look like.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I was curious how many U.S. households earn at least $170k, and this website responded to asking about 170k by saying that the 80th percentile is $165,068.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 76 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Psst, hey, got a handy hint for you: you can actually raise wages at your business without it being mandated by minimum wage laws.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Paying an employee minimum wages just means you'd pay them less if it was legal.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Yup. The bare minimum because the law says you must.

These fuckers would all keep slaves if it wasn't illegal. It's not the ethical and moral disgrace of slave owning that stops them, but the legal aspect of it.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that the CEO of McDonald's is aware of that.

The rationale here is that if they get minimum wage increasesed, they can raise their workers wages without the reality or perception that they're ceding a fiduciary advantage to their competitors.

It's a reality that needs to be addressed. Some major corp had to eventually acknowledge it. Everyone knew it, nobody wanted to be the first to say it.

The first step is admitting there is a problem. The gravity of even this first step, and the fact that it's from Trump's fucking gold standard for food and American business, is massive.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, but you don't get to keep your job in publicly traded companies if you aren't hitting the delusional talking points of people bent on burning society and country down so they can get a 9th yacht.

It's Fordism, the dude literally realizing his employees can't even eat there. Since most of his employees are on government assistance, it's true corporate welfare while he pretends he can't change things.

I hope Boston Dynamics is working on a robot that can operate a guillotine; we have an industrial scale of resetting to get through.

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[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 week ago

Lmao "the poors can't afford our shit... maybe now is the time to advocate for higher minimum wage" fuck off corpo dickheads

[–] commander@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone actually figured out that a service company competing with a shit ton of other service companies in a service economy needs people that work service jobs to be able to afford their services. They won't raise wages themselves alone because it's not like McDonald's workers will spend the raised wages solely at McDonald's. They have other essentials and non-Mcdonalds services to pay for. They need every place to have their minimum wage increased and then McDonald's try to capture a larger portion of everyone's higher income that exceeds their higher labor cost. Stagnant incomes means non-essential services like McDonald's get squeezed out

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 week ago (11 children)

"skipping breakfast or eating at home"

Look, McDonald's breakfast is pretty damn good, and is super nostalgic. But holy fuck 1030 cutoff and like $6 for a mass produced, frozen sausage patty, English muffin, and a Kraft single is insane.

Also, I just meal prepped us an awesome breakfast for the next two weeks. Like 15lbs of chunked potatoes, mushrooms, onions, hot sausage slices, and bell peppers, seasoned with Chile powder and garlic butter, oven roasty-toasted to golden brown, and tossed into containers in the fridge.

Then in the morning, I plate a big scoop or so of that and microwave it until it's hot, and fry two eggs with runny yolks, topped with salt and fresh ground black pepper and some hot sauce (like valentina) on the plate. Fork, toast, glass of milk or coffee.

Fuck you, McDonald's. Like 30 meals-worth was only like $35 bucks, and kicks the shit out of most things.

I look forwards to breakfast everyday now.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was always told mushrooms have a limited shelf life after being cooked, 3-4 days.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good point. I should freeze it all in portions, soon, maybe tomorrow.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The worst feeling is getting food poisoning or even just mild gastric upset and not knowing why.

As I get older I have started listening more to the traditional wisdoms and not eating the pizza that has been out of refrigeration for two days.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my local bagel shop sells a fresh bagel on a fresh egg with cheese for $7.

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[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You shouldn't be keeping food in the fridge for 2 weeks. 4-5 days max. You should immediately freeze it when you cook it. Don't wait a few days before freezing it.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

The guy probably donates to the republicans that help him suppress wages and give him massive tax breaks but offers up this nugget of wisdom the rest of us have lived with for decades now?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

It's expensive. It's shitty, even for fast food. They let a rapist felon use one of their locations for a photoshoot to improve his image.

Yeah, I'm good on McD's.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I haven't gone to a mcdonald's by choice in almost 4 years now. When my meal rose from 12-13$ to 17-18$ I stopped going. Just for the chuckle I put that same meal into the app, it's now 22$ after tax. yea no I'll just go to apple bees or dominos and get more food for less.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago

I remember the last time I ate at mcds. Summer 2020, middle of move, wrapping up about 2am. mcds is the only thing close that's open, don't want to have to drive anywhere. I remember their dollar menu used to be tolerable.

Cost me $10 for the "value meal" of the two tiny wimpy cheeseburgers that used to be a dollar, small fries and small drink. And I had to get the meal because it was cheaper than buying separately like I used to do. That is more than double the price I used to have to pay for that meal.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The last time I was there the dollar menu meal still existed I think. Fairly certain the last time I was there was probably around 2011/2012, to pick up some chicken nuggets for some kids.

The last time I went there regularly, you could buy two full meals for less than 5 bucks (or at least really close to it). And even that was overpriced. This is a place that has insane profit margins, but will yell at employee for putting an extra pickle slice on anything. And there's some low quality pickles to be honest.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Im in Canada and it’s crazy that a Big Mac meal now costs close to $20. In a great competitive move, Burger King now has a whopper jr meal for $5 which honestly is enough for me. I’ve been taking advantage of it. The thing is, with prices what they are, instead of bringing back the value Menus, these fast food chains need to keep only the value menu, because that was their whole point. Over time the burgers got bigger and crazier and more costly. I just want to go back to getting a regular burger with a normal, non fat person amount of fries and a small drink and not break the bank.

Remember original McDonald’s only really had the small hamburger and cheeseburger and fries, not all these other burgers and that was enough, and kept your fast food meal cheap

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 33 points 1 week ago

Ohh I am sorry you doubled your price over last decade...

Did the wages double?

I hope idiots stop eating your slop... Deny the parasite profit.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 31 points 1 week ago

this is the economy you helped create dickshitter.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a Shareholder this man needs to be FIRED! If POORS can't Afford our Meals then we should RAISE the Prices so that NON POORS can Also not Eat our Food because for $15 you can get a MUCH BETTER HAMBURGER Elsewhere! And then we can FIRE Cooks too to save even MORE Money!

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Next: replacing the customers with kiosks

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

There’s always room in the CEO budget - George Bluth

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The closest McDonald's to me has a local BBQ joint right next to it at about the same price point. There's zero value prop, but these dumb-dumbs had to realize it after they lost a shitload of customers.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Americans tried to escape Fordism, but eventually you need someone to buy the thing you're trying to sell.

[–] DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get fucked fascist burger “oh no leopards are eating our faces instead of our burgers” hahaha

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, and if you could not serve dogshit quality food, that'd be great

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess capitalism isn't always perfectly dead set on breaking itself.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Sooner or later, reality teaches it's lessons.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

More basic dishonesty from McDonald's and from Fortune. If he really wanted to raise the lowest hourly wages for his salaries, he could have done so already. There's no need to wait for a minimum wage increase.

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