Fun fact, you cannot commit animal abuse on a soybean, coconut, rice, wheat, or oat grains.
Fuck dairy
this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2025
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No fan of dairy either. But soy bean production is very problematic for animals. Especially how its farmed in south america.
So because one country isn't using machines to farm their soybeans and uses animals instead we should ignore the fact that an entire industry commits horrifying abuse across the board?
Because literally everywhere else soybean farming has been mechanized.
No we can not ignore the horrid abuse of animals. It is the reason I pointed out that soybeans ain't cool either. There is a shitton of deforestation happening which is killing animal habitats.
Soymilk is not the solution to the problem. That's all I was saying.
Edit: And I was not talking about mechanization. That was not the point I am tried to make.
Exactly
Oat milk is the GOAT milk.
Another shitty grift, the American economy is at least 50% grift at this point I swear, because there's little consequence for all of this but major profits. I barely want to participate in this economy anymore it's just fucking mental.
I feel like this has been dairy industry standard practice for decades. Is this new?
Grew up in the great plains/midwest around the dairy industry. Had extended family who owned a smaller dairy farm. This all sounds pretty standard. Not saying it's right, but none of it sounds new to me.
I would imagine there were plenty of people who bought modern marketing that was designed to cruelty-wash the dairy industry. The reality is there's no way to insert yourself between an udder and a calf without cruelty, and that's the only way to get cow's milk. Unless we can figure out how to get milk from lab-grown organs, which probably comes with it's own ethical issues.
Coworker has a cow/calf pair. The cow and calf do get separated in the morning, but after milking they are turned out together on pasture for the rest of the day. Of course, most folks aren't lucky enough to have the space or means (or desire) to raise their own food the way they want. I have friends who love milk but cant stand the sight of an udder... funny. In their words, it is "better not to think about it." Wild. My dream has always been to have a homestead, so I cant imagine the thinking...
I've helped out on smaller dairy farms around VT and after milking they are allowed to wander out where they want. If they don't get milked they can get infections and such.
I hate to break it to you but this isn't new.
Then downvote it and move on?
Cows need to be pregnant to produce milk, so they're artificially inseminated throughout most of their lives.
Also, most people can't properly digest lactose. Only about 30% of the population has the enzyme required, and most of them are concentrated in Europe/North America.
Good thing Fairlife is lactose free then I guess.