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Tipped restaurant and bar workers in Chicago will make $15.80 per hour through raises over the next few years as subminimum wages are banned.

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is how it always should be. There is no good reason for employers to pay less if someone makes tips. It is stealing...whatever the law says.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah we had this in the UK for a time when minimum wage was introduced. Up until about 2008-2009 when it was finally changed so that employees had to have minimum wage regardless of tips the hospitality industry didn't collapse despite the noise made in the right wing press.

However we now have issues with employers stealing tips from employees via various dodgy practices. The law is likely to change again here to protect tips too.

Chicago are making a step in the right direction but employees will still lose out of tips aren't protected too

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I (almost) always tip in cash. I hope this lowers the chance that an employer can intercept it.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They should have raised their wages more and done away with tipping though

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

When I started learning about 7i it blew my mind being from the West Coast. Incredibly horrific piece of law.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Will tips still be included though? Or are they eliminating tips?

[–] krellor@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Washington State changed the minimum wage years ago and mandated it to include tipped workers. It didn't really change the tipping, but the tips still went to the staff, so at least the workers got a more livable income out of the deal.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm just sick of tipping now, I'm done. I won't go to restaurants anymore because of it

[–] Steve@communick.news 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Currently the subminimum wage in Chicago ranges from $9 to $9.48 an hour plus tips.

Restaurant servers and other tipped workers are paid a "subminimum wage" which acts as a base pay and is bolstered by tips.

Chicago does tips on top of the wage. That hasn't changed. So that might mean eliminating tips to some patrons.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Watch, the companies will still try to confisticate the tips though

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Tips will be mostly irrelevant once patrons are not shamed and manipulated into paying tips. If the salaries are already paid, most people will not tip.

Tips finally got to a breaking point in the US and they're on the way out for good.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

It should have been $15/hr 20 years ago.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nice. always struck me as insane when i heard that waiters in the US were expected to make money from tips and were paid almost nothing