This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.
The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.
PTB for sure, this is blatant bad-jacketing and their behavior in this thread is also extremely hostile.
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works I'm not sure if this level of power-tripping or inter-intstance drama breaks any rules but just wanted to let you guys know that this is a thing since it's a community on your instance which was the source of the drama and bannings.
Seeing how Goat tried to ping db0 because they voted in the thread to drag them into debate, I'm gonna go with PTB on this one.
If they wanted to prove their point, they should have given links that proved their point.
Never mind that anarchists are explicitly anti-authoritarian, apparently db0 is a tankie now? Lol, yep checks out. Those twatwaffles think a "tankie" is anyone who is critical of the Dems, or of US foreign policy. OPs comments were also accurate imo regarding China's influence in Myanmar being a much stronger example of Chinese imperialism.
The libs have got some nerve getting hysterical about the Uyghurs when they obviously couldn't give two shits about their own government (and their own party) continually voting to keep supplying weapons to Israel in order to continue its genocide in Gaza. Has China been shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs? Yes, no doubt. Is it a genocide of the type and scale that Israel is currently waging? Absolutely not.
PTB
Genocide is also the extermination of culture and identity, not just mass killings. Amnesty as an organisation tends be extremely conservative with their approach and language (for better or for worse).
In Ukraine, they had a report saying that the military should leave all cities. Comically stupid stuff. I am not saying this randomly, I have two military facilities near where I live (albeit one that's really close is likely to be low priority for the russians). The leader of Amnesty Ukraine resigned over this report.
And considering the nature of MOG, it would be reasonable to expect a lower threshold for mod actions for tankie-adjacent content.
I had been avoiding !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for around a month. I had previously unsubscribed from it as it seemed to get a bit unhinged.
I had to go back there in the last few days for a post about Piefed default defederation list.
People pointed me out that !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works doesn't moderate comments such as
If it was russia or China starving people in Gaza, tankie roach would claim that “genocide isn’t happening”, “the BIA is seeding fake reports about starvation!” and “this is the best deradicalization program in history!”.
What a bunch of lying, disgusting degenerates.
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20140833/
I reached out to the mod, he told me to tell the hexbear people to check their own comments as well https://hexbear.net/search?q=cockroaches&type=Comments&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=New
I found one comment equating democrats to cockroaches
If the democrats start breaking the rules right back at them it's a whole new game they aren't equipped to play. They might adapt, they're cockroaches, but it could be a bridge too far. I think both sides are banking on the other side bluffing. But they themselves are bluffing.
https://hexbear.net/post/5850141/6412496
Maybe there needs to be another community to just report toxic users, with a diverse mod team, this two-way war (especially as both communities can't talk to each other due to defederation/community ban) just seems turn into a long term conflict where all parts assume the worse of the other.
That piefed Hexbear defederation post is weird. They are basically arguing that defederating from Hexbear by default is not a block.
Devs should keep away from default blocks unless it is objectively illegal or spam. Imagine if the Lemmy devs started blacklisting sh.itjustworks by default. That would cause some outrage. But they see no problem doing it the other way around
The question boils down to: do you consider a default defederation list to be an inevitable block, or do you consider it a preset that can be easily changed afterwards, and should as admins should review their defederation list when setting up an instance anyway?
At first people thought it could not be avoided, and were relieved to learn it could easily be changed: https://lemmy.zip/post/47192425/21066707
For the context, what the change experience looks like for an admin
This is exactly how it works. I started a PieFed instance and made the decision (during setup) to trim the defederation list down to none. Users can block on the account level.
For screenshots and more details: https://wetshav.ing/comment/92409
A default block was what I assumed that meant. By default it is blocked, but it possible to unblock.
The major issue is that putting them on the blacklist by default: the admins need to make a conscious decision to unblock them. Which they will probably not do unless they agree with their views or enjoy their posts.
This gives easy plausible deniability to who wants to blacklist hexbear or lemmygrad. The partiality is far stronger than on Lemmy. Where we know the devs have certain political views but they do not force them upon anyone.
List of Piefed instances that currently defederate hexbear:
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
As you can see, instances defederating hexbear are instances managed by teams which were going to do so anyway, as they already did on Lemmy. I'm still waiting for an example of an instance that defederated hexbear "by mistake".
Setting up an instance isn't trivial, assuming that admins would revise the defederation list doesn't seem realistic.
There are still a few instances that federate with hexbear, showing that the 'baked in block' is just a configuration change:
Hexbear's post is weird, acting like a blocklist is the same as hardcoding a "1-way defederation" as they try to frame it. They are such scummy manipulators.
And now Goat has banned all db0 users because we hosted the place that called him out. PTB.