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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Gavin Newsom: As a liberal, I oppose subjecting trans people to forced medical investigations and research. I only want them detained.

[–] tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Republicans: "Why are trans people angry at society and bitter and going crazy? We must take even more rights away from them and detain them, then study them using our religious pseudoscientific thinking, in order to find out the cause!"

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Just totally normal stuff...

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You have allies.

Republicans need to be detained and studied

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 minutes ago

it's called a Kid Rock concert.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Seems like we found our new CDC director /s

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yet another one of those little fucking office-seeking power-hungry assholes. It's gonna be fun if someone slips a little laxative into his coffee.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Weird way to spell "rat poison"

[–] kyoko916@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 day ago

This shit is exactly what we've been warning for the last decade and every rightweiner and """"""centrist""""" toned it down for years, saying stupid stuff like "nah they cant do that" YES THEY CAN IF THEY ALLOW THE AUTHORITARIANIST FASCIST GOVERNMENT TO GET AWAY WITH IT YOU DIPSHIT

One time in ages someone who is allegedly trans do a massive shooting along with the 99.9% of white cisgender males who did it before. But the trans community is the one to blame now? Are you fucking serious? It doesn't mean anything for you the SEVERAL TIMES it was done by a cisgender male? Who are you trying to fool? Its the most pathetic scapegoating I've seen in my entire life and the worst part is that the stupids will fall for it

I remember when calling out a bigoted automatically made you a "sjw" and now I get why people were so defensive. With everyone against our pure existence is kinda hard to don't be defensive and paranoid, specially if reincarnated Shittler and followers are round.

The people who were mocking us when people was warning about bigoted politicians honestly doesn't deserve nothing, not our attention, neither the oxygen they breath. But is thanks to they're constant minimizing of fascism that we're on this point. So I hope for a very pleasant revenge once we're able to.

But for MAGAs and adjacents I just hope for a very painful death. These dipshits can burn in hell.

Thank god I don't live on the US, but I still fear the moment when my country is gonna go backwards too.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds like the perfect time to throw trans people under a bus so Gavin Newsom can be elected. Solidarity only goes one way, right?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We need to make sure someone other than Gavin Newsom wins the primary.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

it doesn't matter who you vote for, liberate the concentration camps through direct action and the political consensus will adapt to fit that result

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[–] basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

May I ask what is the cause of the hatered for him? (Genuinely wondering)

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 12 hours ago

Gavin Newsom is against trans rights, clears homeless encampments, and vetoes and suppresses progressive legislation.

Which this article summarizes:

https://transitics.substack.com/p/yes-gavin-newsom-is-funny-that-doesnt

This is the full interview with Charlie Kirk where he unquestioningly buys all of the fascist bullshit Charlie Kirk was selling about trans people without any push back. From what I saw of it, Newsom seemed to find fascism intuitively compelling. Fascism must appeal to someone like Newsom since he only seems to care about himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJ6rQDRKGA

Newsom has been going after homeless people for awhile. This is the most recent development. After the Charlie Kirk interview, I have serious doubts about his intention to help homeless people. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up having to fight fires like California prisoners:

https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2025/08/newsom-homeless-encampments-task-force/

This lists some of the progressive legislation that Newsom has vetoed:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/23/newsom-transgender-self-driving-truck-00117781

Also he's fine with using slave labor to fight fires. He didn't start the practice but he hasn't done anything to stop it.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/nx-s1-5254122/inmate-firefighters-california-wildfires

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I do want to point out that this isn't a policy maker, just a vocal idiot.

However, it is well understood that the fascists have no desire to include LGBTQ in their "in-group," Given that the regime has already removed protections for Trans individuals, it's a matter of time before RFK Jr refills the CDC and declares it a disease requiring extensive study.

This means there is time to prepare. Immigrating is stupid hard. Moving is stupid hard. Find someone you trust that can hide you at a moments notice. Keep a pair of sunglasses on you that will cover your eyes well. Hair dye in black if you have light hair, bleach if it's in a dark color. A change of clothes, a pair of shoes, and a backpack you've never worn or used. Edit: these don't have to be new as in unused. In fact if it's used, it will probably stand out less.

Above all, remember this isn't permanent. Fascism will break itself eventually, even if the rest of us are unable to.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago

I just want to add that a basic battery powered hair trimmer can be very effective if you don't have a sink handy to dye/bleach your hair.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

idk how feasible hiding someone in a fully authoritarian no-privacy regime would be, ig it's best to hope that some measure of privacy would stay for a little while

some thoughts:

  • it's probably best to assume that any store you entered is going to be tracked with facial recognition nowadays
  • in any large brand store, probably also knowledge of who bought what is sold to data brokers
  • obviously anything you do online is known about and saved, at least unless you have a trustworthy vpn located in a sane country
  • basically anywhere you go in a car is saved in a searchable database
  • we have the technology to track the movements aerially of a whole town from one drone

i feel like if you're one person it would be hard to support another secret person without it being obvious, if the administration is willing to devote the resources to aggregate all of this data and such

edit: here's a recent video that talks about some of the (publicly known) tracking stuff in the US

Target is one of the worst stores for facial tracking and has horrible privacy policies. I personally stopped shopping there completely to boycott this.

When McDonald's and Targets introduce facial tracking technology and push tracking Apps and want to become part of a dystopian panopticon of tracking, and then a decent chunk of people just stop going there, corporate ALWAYS blames something else, as though people are too stupid to opt out of this. They never roll back any tracking, just change CEOs and add new coupons and close stores.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
  1. If you have to go into hiding, you go directly there.

  2. Once there you begin working on a means to get out of country. It needs to be done through VPN use something like mullvad.

  3. Do not leave hiding until it is time to leave the country.

The reality is that if these guys go full Nazi, we have plenty of history to see what not to do if you can't get out of country.

[–] tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who has experience with being a literal fugitive in a case carrying the possibility of life (before eventually being detained and then found not guilty and released), this is really hard to do and people underestimate how difficult this is.

There is a psychological stress that goes along with being "on the run." A person goes into flight/fight mode and there is such a huge rush of endorphins for such a prolonged period that it wears down the brain. It's the sort of endorphin rush that would be really helpful if 1000 years ago you needed to run for 2 days to get away from your local village after something terrible happened. It is not helpful in modern society when fleeing a situation. You are much more likely to crash a vehicle during this time, you are much more likely to be unable to think normally or even be able to sleep. Criminals are often caught after crimes and during fleeing because they make mistakes that seem stupid, and naive folks go "criminals are so dumb," but it's really the huge flood of fight or flight brain chemicals that makes regular thinking and regular actions impossible but physical running much easier.

To deal with this, you need to do anything you can to reduce steps that involve thinking in such a situation. You need to have at least 1 go bag fully packed and ready. You will also forget stuff when you need to flee. You may even forget the go bag. The steps needed to leave must be easy, few, and rehearsable (ie, message friend in safe house using XMPP, grab go back, walk to location 2, meet friend to get ride to safe house). Packing light is important. Cash is important. A burner phone is important, you don't want to buy it later when fleeing. A water bottle and vitamins can be helpful. Sleep aids like sleeping pills, and a mask for over the eyes, and ear plugs are helpful in case you've traveled for 2 days and need to sleep somewhere hidden. Don't forget sleeping pills. Anti-anxiety medication would be very helpful. There are license plate readers so any car in a "wanted" person's name will result in arrest if they are suddenly marked to go to a "Trans Containment Camp" or "Mental Health Re-education Facility." There are sometimes police in main bus terminals and other locations. How will you get to this secret place to get out? Even if you have a go bag, cash, and enough visual changes to not be identified using biometric technology, will you walk away to this safe location? Many visual changes can create anonymity, but identification is often required during travel and if you are on a list, it will flag you immediately.

Many ways of thinking about this type of thing ("use a Nord VPN and chrome in incognito mode") are useless. Even relying on Signal is bad choice because if you have a burner phone with a removable battery never powered on at home purchased with cash in the go bag, then you can't log into Signal with it after you've fled, since Signal is tied to 1 device. XMPP is always safer when fleeing. Accept that many law-abiding liberal people will not help you or will even turn you in if trans people are suddenly subject to being rounded up.

I am not trans, but for trans people in America, they may want to look at options now for how to get out of the country unless you have the midset of a fighter. I am a second amendment supporter. If they try to de-arm trans people, that would be the canary in the coalmine to get out of the country. Getting out now, or making an emergency plan to get out now, will be so much easier than waiting too long for those that do not believing in literally fighting illegal tyranny. Now is the time if you are trans to make the go bag, take 90 percent of your hormones and save 10 percent for the go bag, consider options on how to best flee.

You don't need to flee now, and there's no point in being sad or scared, but just try to do some preparation. Remember that black slaves long ago did these sorts of things and now slavery is illegal in the USA. It's horrible that slaves had to flee, but they were heroes, and trans people who need to prepare to flee and take precautions are heroes too.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago

Thanks for adding all of that.

It's daunting.

The bit about XMPP is good, VPNs usually require payment of some sort which means a way to track you. Signal is useful for off-device message intercepting. While I'm not sure of what the state of on-device interception, and it can't be ruled out.

And comparing this to a fugitive situation is sort of exactly what I was going for. The fleeing slaves, the persecuted in Nazi Germany, immigrants today, etc. in the eyes of authoritarian rule, there is no "getting off the bad list."

Ultimately, getting out of the country is the safest bet. But it's hard. And that's the original problem I want people to be aware of, it gets crazy hard the longer people stay.

If I could get my son out of country I would. He doesn't have much to fear, being a cute white boy with blonde hair and blue eyes. But he has AuADHD, and that's the part I'm concerned with right now. I'd have to get special permission from the state and my ex to do it, and she won't.

But you did remind me of the other thing. Since I can't get out with my kid, I'm getting into better shape. When it comes down to it, we'll need it regardless if we flee or fight.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I just don't think you could stay hidden for long because it could be pretty obvious that someone's suddenly started buying twice as much food right as one of their friends disappears (both of which would be relatively easy to detect without individual attention)

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A change of clothes, a pair of shoes,

SHOES!!! ffs MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE !!!SHOES!!! along with the rest. Shoes are usually the one thing that people forget to change and will get you recognized, police know this, you should too

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Actually, that brings up other things.

I would also suggest shoes that have been worn, not by you, and sized bigger or half size smaller than your current shoe.

If you wear jewelry? Now you don't.

If you don't wear jewelry? Get some magnetic nose/earrings/lip things.

If you have tattoos, for the love of everything, cover them. Tattoos are probably easier to identify someone than their own face.

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[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

They try out such takes through the vocal idiots, but after it gets zero backlash (real backlash, like violent protests), it becomes the actual agenda of policy makers. That's how authoritarianism and fascism is being built.

So, trans and LGBTQ+ folks, please be very careful and consider leaving US if you can. And if you stay, organize with like-minded people and don't be alone

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vocal idiots rants are currently being turned into actions by the current dipshit in chief.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago

Maybe there's a reason they get called fasicts.

[–] bownage@beehaw.org 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile my country (Netherlands) is rejecting trans people from the US political asylum because 'their most recent investigation into the political climate showed no signs of a hostile environment for trans people'. Which was NOVEMBER 2024 YEAH NO SHIT omfg start taking this seriously you fucking idiots

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most european governments hate trans people, too, they just aren't quite as ready to admit to what they want to do with them.

[–] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 48 points 1 day ago

fucking.. wow

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 day ago

... I need to warn some people. They need to board some flights out of this circus now.

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please have an escape plan for when they start actually doing this. Even if it's living in the forest until everything blows over.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Or, and I can't stress this enough, you can go fuck yourself.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Republican commentator

He’s a fascist. Call a spade a spade.

Also, has there even been another trans mass shooter?

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