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[–] frog@feddit.uk 44 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Fun fact (maybe just a fact):

Even more importantly, during pre-industrial warfare more than 90 per cent of war dead were killed by starvation, cold and disease rather than by weapons.

From Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Relevant Oglaf:

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And after industrialization most deaths in war are due to artillery strikes. Not being shot by a riflemen like most people would think.

I remember reading that only 20% of US soldiers fired their rifle in ww2 the figure is kind of controversial. But I think there's some true to it that not that many soldiers even got within firing range of the enemy.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Not being shot by a riflemen like most people would think.

But I think there's some true to it that not that many soldiers even got within firing range of the enemy.

You may want to sign in to YouTube because it is age restricted, but have you seen the video footage from France24 reporter getting into the midst of a firefight with the FARC in Colombia? You can't actually see where the bullets are from. You hear the general direction of where the shot is from, but not specifically where. Fortunately, the crew survived after being taken hostage and then later freed.

Unlike in movies where they could pinpoint where the shooter is, in the footage no one can see where the shots are coming from. Real life combat is precisely like that. No wonder you'd call in artillery to smoke out enemies and drones to simply remotely do the killing.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

like most people would think

Sorry, have most people not seen the fucking size of artillery? This is why Verdun, Tannenberg and Isonzo are such immersive WW1 games. So many people dying of artillery and gas.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

I remember hearing from a blacksmith doing medieval reenactment that it would be quite rare to be killed by an arrow on the battlefield, most of the death would come from the infection that comes after being shot by the arrow.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah, you raise an army of 100,000 so you have 10,000 to fight with and about 20 make it back home alive. Then they all die of something they picked up on the way.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And now what? Are we going to sit in this thread for a few years screaming at newcomers?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Read the room, Noodle

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At least you could fill a trebuchet with a load of mixed human and animal feces and demoralize your enemies from the other side of the wall.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

God bless modern engineering

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They'll never be able to climb these walls!

oh.

[–] Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago
[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is that the Helepolis at Rhodos?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

It’s Anor Londo.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Masada

Ignore the propaganda elements, the ramp is still there

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Movies are why loads of people think a siege is storming the walls for ten minutes and done. Naw, think more like hundreds of days of boredom, starvation and disease.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Jerry must be a Blackadder

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Based Jerry.