I just hate that so much. The openness was one of the two reasons why I got an android phone. The other one being the price.
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I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:
- https://clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2025/07-20-flx1-actually-usable-linux-phone.gmi
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41839326
- https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1fa1ljn/furilabs_flx1/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j46f2w/flx1_linux_phone_display_out/
- https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/03/furiphone_flx1/
I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.
What is halium and why is it a drawback ?
https://halium.org/ (not me insinuating you should've just searched for it; I just like to be thorough and give all possible information, even if unneeded)
The very simplified explanation (as far as I understand things) is that it uses an Android kernel to run Linux on so that hardware issues are minimized (the biggest difficulty that Purism and the Pinephones have had and why they've been harangued in terms of what they can do is they're trying to provide open hardware that can work with the pure Linux kernel).
So the plus side is that things work with Android hardware – because you're, ultimately, using the Android kernel – and you can (theoretically) open up the number of devices you can run on exceedingly.
Downside is (I believe) you get Google/Android closed bits running and you're tied to the development of whomever made that modified kernel. All the complaints about not getting kernel upgrades after a while (because you're using a modified kernel, you can't just pull the latest and greatest from upstream and use it) that people have with Android will still apply.
Given the moves Google's making, it's not a deal breaker, for me, but I know it can be for some people so just wanted to give people the heads up.
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@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth, @Korhaka@sopuli.xyz, @Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com, @nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone
(only because you all expressed desire for a proper Linux phone and I've still, yet, to've seen anyone mention this in this thread; may not fit your needs but in case no one knew of it, yet)
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I am very happy on GrapheneOS. Even in terms of flashing it was much nicer experience than what you had to go through back in the days
I’ll break my sons phone the day that he comes phone with a data harvested machine.
Most relatable meme in a while, feels weird to feel so much nostalgia for an Operating system
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I miss those days. Ive jumped to iOS for quite a few years since, but I do miss the community and tinkering. I don’t miss the shitty battery life and hoping my phone doesn’t brick when I flash a new ROM or kernel.
so apple fixed the battery life thing? i knew macbooks have insane battery life, but i thought iphones still couldn't do 2 days which i think is the line between shitty and ok. anyway samsungs could never and still can't do more than 2 days in my hands, but I've been amazed that my p8p with graphene can easily get 4 days (I'm a pretty light user).
I’m comparing the galaxy s2 I believe and other older phones I would use to flash ROMs. Battery life was always an issue then. I’m sure it’s gotten better. I’m just speaking from 2011 time period.
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😢 AOKP was king. I miss all the extra silly features they packed in. You could make it look almost nothing like Android by the time you were done.
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Yes, Titanium Backup was great, but have you also tried Helium? Also where's Odin3?
I recognise almost all of picture one, but it's been a while since I used them, I should upgrade again. Is it really that much pain now?
This is why I moved to iPhone a few years ago. Every premium android was a legit knockoff of iPhone in every single way, down to the lack of a headphone jack and SD card slot. Why continue chasing these phones that aren’t even as good as the real thing?
Android USED TO be better than iPhone, but Google is just gung-ho on enshitification. Apple, for the walled garden that it is, at least works well with its eco system. Android is so fragmented and complicated that it’s collapsing under its own weight.