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    [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 149 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    My Windows is more like "I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don't schedule it any sooner."

    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.

    Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it's got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn't get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it's chosen.

    [–] notthebees@reddthat.com 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Is Linux higher in your boot priority?

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Linux is higher in any priority.

    [–] timik_pipik@lemy.lol 9 points 2 months ago

    Always has been.

    [–] hansolo@lemmy.today 19 points 2 months ago

    When I had a dualboot, that's how I ordered it.

    [–] p_consti@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

    You can configure Grub to boot into whichever entry you last selected. Makes rebooting much more convenient

    [–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    you know you can make it so the last used OS gets booted right?

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    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 93 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I like how you censored systemd

    [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    People need to learn that it's ok to say systemd on the Internet and stop self censoring

    [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Let's not get carried away. Fuck and shit are ok, but I draw the line at s*****d

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

    ~~init.d~~ straight to jail

    [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, let's keep this community family friendly. I could do without such obscenities.

    [–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

    system deez nuts

    [–] RazTheCat@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Windows just randomly installing updates only when I'm working on something with a customer.

    [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

    one of the reasons I'm moving away. pisses me off so much at work, I don't even want it at home

    [–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.

    Pretty sure windows would've just set the computer on fire at this point.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.

    [–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 months ago

    I’m a little spoiled by this. I did it on Windows and had to rebuild the boot partition.

    [–] LordAmplifier@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That's weak. I always pull on the power cord until the plug comes out. That shuts it down in a second flat.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I was talking about a laptop with non-removable battery of course! I turn off my desktop via Zigbee remote hooked to Home Assistant which flips a Zigbee power switch that the AC power cord is hooked up to. Even faster death than going under the desk and unplugging the power cord. Even just unplugging itself takes time.

    [–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.

    You all not suspend/hibernate?

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    [–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I do yes | sudo pacman -Syu && sudo poweroff

    (Update and poweroff)

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Fuck that noise sudo shutdown 0 turn off NOW bitch!

    [–] seralth@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

    I prefer shutdown now gives me a feeling of power

    [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    You don't need sudo to run poweroff on Arch, provided there's no other users logged into the system

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    [–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Assuming you enter your password upon running sudo, isn't there the risk of sudo's privilege timing out if pacman takes too long to complete? I believe I tried something similar, intending to run a one-liner I could start then walk away from. However, I ended up returning to see the system not rebooted hours later.

    Or is yes somehow supposed to take care of this? Sorry, newish Debian user here who hasn't ventured outside the distribution much.

    [–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Yes, in this ~~command~~ one liner, the system should not power off when the update took too long.

    Or is yes somehow supposed to take care of this?

    No, yes is simply answering all questions asked during the update procedure (start upgrade, replace config files, restart services) with "yes".

    [–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    ~~There's no timeout for sudo. When permitted, a process runs as root and then closes.~~

    ~~Also, the system will still shutdown when update fails because pipes do not care if previous commands exit with a nonzero code, unless pipefail is set.~~

    Edit: i'm blind.

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    The command after && runs only if the previous command returns non-error exit status (0), if pacman returns error the latter command won't be executed.

    Additionally there's probably a configuration option for sudo for it to not time out, but it doesn't matter since you can just use systemctl reboot as a normal user to reboot your system (at least on Debian). If that's too long I recommend to add this to your .bashrc (if you use Bash): alias reb='systemctl reboot' or something similar.

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    [–] rem26_art@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ya'll aint just pulling out the power plug?

    [–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

    I flip the breaker whenever it's time to shut down.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I flip the breakers so I can keep the power plug connected

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    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    It's a screenshot of a screenshot in a video? What's that shield?

    On my work PC I disabled automatic restarts and I'll just hibernate it for weeks at a time, keeping my work stuff open. Convenient, and I can install updates when I choose to.

    [–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 months ago

    goddamn generation loss-ass meme.

    [–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Y'all don't delete WSUS, block all of the M$ IPs at both your HOSTS file and your router, and stop all update processes?

    Do you even know how Windows works?

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    [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I thought the Windows update system is actually not too bad. At least compared to Mac.

    [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 months ago

    Yea, it has a robust rollback system, which is part of why it takes so long now.

    But... I only do updates a couple times a year to minimize the headache on my personal machines.

    My work machines it's not my problem, but I reboot them at night a couple times a week, just in case.

    [–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Compared to Mac? Mac’s is so much better? The number of times windows has fucked me over by updating on a restart.

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    [–] callyral@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    me turning off the power supply: (i didn't have anything open so hopefully it's fine...)

    [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's much less risky than it used to be. Journaling filesystems reduce the risk of filesystem corruption to near zero and are fairly ubiquitous now on non-removable media.

    [–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

    One thing I've seen my computer do a few times: log me out, by itself. Some rare times I try and unlock back into my session, my current open and active user with my programs running, and instead I am greeted not by my desktop as it was when I locked the screen, but rather the lock screen as it was before I even logged in the first time around

    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

    windows: installing updates, do not power off

    me: the fuck you are dismantles laptop and rips out battery

    Linux: shutdown now

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