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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah being a shit poster is not the kind of leadership i want replacing Trump, especially when his other actions have been not to the standards of what i think of as a good person.

Fuck Newsom, we can and need to do better, rather than richer.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The fact that half the country has shit for brains leans me towards disagreeing with you. The 60's saw a charismatic, camera friendly JFK beat old shitty Nixon and everything turned into a popularity contest after that.

The Republicans figured it out with Regan and have been refining it ever since. If Newsome can get enough shit brained non voters to put his name in a box for lulz then fuck it, I'd rather have that asshole than whoever the Republicans are going to pick.

I'll be happier to see a progressive, educated professional with a successful career full of giving-a-shit , independent and with wild grassroots support, but that doesn't seem likely.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

It’s very clear he’s just campaigning.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm not doing purity politics, he can change his was and I can forgive him. There's still some years left.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago

I haven’t seen a single person say that there’s nothing he can ever do to make up for it. People are calling for him to stop the transphobia and persecution of the homeless.

[–] salacious_coaster 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I will never forget that Gavin Newsom vetoed ranked choice voting in CA. He's already demonstrated that he is anti-democratic. I would vote against Trump every time no matter who the DNC put up, including Newsom, but I would be holding my nose yet again to vote for the less shitty of two shitty choices. The DNC can't keep running on "we're not Trump." They needed to give us a candidate we actually wanted.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would vote against Trump every time no matter who the DNC put up

They needed to give us a candidate we actually wanted.

Apparently they don't

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Twice now they've lost against Trump by not giving people what they wanted.

[–] salacious_coaster 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Astute viewers at home may have noticed that the Democrats just lost the last election with that strategy. Just because I'll hold my nose and do the necessary thing doesn't mean everyone else will. In fact, they didn't.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago (17 children)

The really weird thing I've noticed lately is just how vocal the "this isn't the time to divide the left" crowd are, when the elections are so far off. This is exactly the right time to be having a serious reckoning on what the Democratic Party should be, and that isn't going to happen unless there is a credible threat of losing left-wing voters.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we’re not allowed to criticize candidates in the general then I’m gonna criticize them extra hard in the primaries.

I’m gonna have to vote for whoever everyone else picks anyway because my choice has literally never won.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well yeah? You didn’t think they were being earnest, the point has always been to get you to shut up and simply vote for whoever they want you too.

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[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are the same type of people who actively support neoliberalism and want to sabatoge the left. Ask them if they support Zohran Mamdani.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (20 children)

What's crazy is the DNC and state parties are partnering with Bernie and AOC for a national tour to retake the House...

And people see Newsom's shit posts and legitimately say:

At least he's doing something

All he's fucking doing is eating up the media's attention so they don't have to talk about actual shit.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

There are many better options than Newsom, and if the dem party can't find true representatives, the party needs to be reborn.

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[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I refuse to vote for him after he appeared on Charlie Kirk's podcast, said he completely aligns with him on trans issues, in particular banning HRT for minors and putting trans women in men's prisons.

Source

At the close of the podcast, Charlie Kirk shifted the discussion to transgender healthcare, stating, "I encourage you to learn about the butchery that is happening under chemical castration in this state. The American people are overwhelmingly against it." Newsom responded, "Yeah. I think we have to be more sensitized to that."

Kirk continued, "Youth should be off limits, you might be right on deportations, I know I’m right on this," to which Newsom simply acknowledged, "Yeah." Kirk then cited the Cass Report—a widely criticized and legally discredited review used to justify bans on transgender healthcare in the UK—as evidence that gender-affirming care for youth should be prohibited. Newsom offered no pushback, replying, "I’m not an expert on this, but I appreciate your broader [point]."

I honestly thought he was looking to run as a Republican in 2028. Fuck him. I'm done. I held my nose and voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris, but this is my breaking point. I've had it.

[–] MagicianWithABadPlan@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Great. Another Trump supporter.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm trans. fuck off with calling me a Trump supporter. you've never had to vote for someone who calls you slurs and promises to take away your rights.

[–] MagicianWithABadPlan@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Being trans has nothing to do with anything. How do you know what I've experienced or not? Here's the bottom line you either do something active to get trump out or you do something passive to keep him in. You might not like your choices, most people don't but that's what they are so. Also fuck off.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Being trans has nothing to do with anything. How do you know what I've experienced or not?

Are you trans?

Are you a member of any minority group that Gavin Newsom has pledged to crack down on? (I'm referencing the Charlie Kirk interview (you know, the Turning Point USA guy) I linked on a sibling post, where he said he was in "100% agreement" with him.)

If not, you fuck off. It's like asking a Jew to support Röhm so Hitler doesn't get reelected führer.

What's your favorite flavor of crayon?

[–] hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A democrat who does awful things and "aspire[s] to be Ronald Reagan". That's not a democratic or liberal candidate. It's a conservative take-over of the democratic party.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a conservative take-over of the democratic party.

I mean... that already happened like 30 years ago. After Walter Mondale got so thoroughly trounced by Reagan in 84, the DNC started looking for their own Reagan. It took a few years to cultivate the right candidate, but Bill Clinton is ultimately who they chose.

People forget just how conservative he was because his famous sex scandal has crowded out any historical memory of his policy positions, but really the only difference between Clinton and Reagan is that Clinton balanced that budget. He was extremely conservative compared to contemporary democrats, but he was "folksy" and had the right kind of charisma to attract middle America. For Christ sake, the guy won Kentucky in both 92 and 96.

Yeah, Hillary Clinton used Reagan's shining city on a hill metaphor in her democratic national convention speech.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

seems like they are pushing him pretty hard, the DNC that is, seeing as how they freaked out over THE MINNESOTA mayor and zohran in nyc. having him doing some performative parlor tricks for the media.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The DNC seems to be fearful of losing their control of the party to younger, more progressive voices. So they keep advocating for the viability of closer-to-cenrer candidates who won't rock the party boat, even though they lose so many votes to folks uninspired to get out and vote for "the lesser evil". I will never "both sides" this mess, but the DNC needs to get its shit together and actually represent the median of "left" in the U.S. or it will continue to fail.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

nyc, they would rather have a republican as one to keep the status qou of boosting up the rich, AIPAC, and defense contractors.

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