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[–] LemUser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The universe is pretty big. Robin shot up that church school (armchair psychology) because religion and the religulous told her that she was an abomination and not welcome. Then tRump's go'ment did the same. I'm sure her peers did the same. Then without mental health access and weak gun laws and a thirst for revenge - then the MAGAts blame DEI.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

They're about to be

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

Maybe your god could do something about that. Funny that he chooses not to.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Its not a religion. But the irrelegious, atheist and agnostic od the world are probably the largest most persecuted group. Fundamentalist Abrahamic relgions (sects of Christians. Muslims. Jews . Etc) view no religion as blasphemy

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, this. Even with the percentage of xtians falling by about 1% per year, I saw that in polling, an awful lot of people still distrust nonbelievers.

I cannot wait for xtianity to fall below 50%, but the cons are trying to stave that off by force if necessary, it seems.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

Not persecuted enough for all the bullshit and self-righteousness they've caused

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 23 hours ago

oh. sure sure. of course. and their most perfect adherents like donald trump have suffered the biggest witch hunts in all of history. So sick of all those other religions doing the witch hunts on the good christian men whose virtue is beyond reproach no matter how many times they went to pedo peninsula or just straight out talked about it during interviews in their life. epstein files. epstein files.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

If only saying it could make it so.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

It’s kind of true. Look the deportations, they are getting mostly people from Christian countries like Mexico for instance. There is an attack on a Christians it seems

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do we know Christians that live on other planets?

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago

the Gelgameks practice Roman Catholicism

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought Mormons get their own planet, but other xtians don't consider LDS "real" xtians, LOL, so there is that.

[–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The issue is that Mormons and other Christians seem to have differing views on who counts as a Christian. Most Christian sects use the Nicene Creed, which includes the basic set of beliefs all (or almost all, depending on your view ofc) Christian sects adhere to. Mormonism diverges from the Nicene Creed:

  • they don't believe in one God (Mormons believe that humans have the capability to become Gods, and that God was mortal at one time and had His own God),
  • they don't believe that God made the universe (they simply believe that He organized it),
  • and they don't believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one substance (they believe that They are three distinct beings).

Mormonism, on the other hand, seems to believe that Christianity is simply accepting Jesus as a prophet sent by God and the Bible as holy scripture...but by that logic Muslims would also be considered Christians.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

And I'm sure Mormons and other xtians that are not necessarily Nicean xtians might just say to those objecting that they are not "true" xtians: "well, that's like your opinion, man..." Or words to that effect. 🤣

I could easily see them pointing out - and probably many have; I have not read Mormon apologetics, though - that the Nicean Council was extra-biblical and put to a vote in a political atmosphere. Meaning, while the Book of Mormon is certainly a retcon (at least in my view), it can easily be argued that so is the Nicene Creed.

It makes a lot of sense why the ability for people to read "the" bible in their own language was something frowned on and often actively stamped out - under threat of death, even. Once the people are able to read the supposed holy documents for themselves, they are going to naturally start having their own interpretation of things, as well as start writing more fanfic to extend the cinematic universe of the original text(s)...it also explains why the printing press was followed by an explosion of xtian forks (or heresies, depending on the viewer's position).

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

hell, in the 90s mormons didn't consider themselves xtians. it's a new thing.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't? You have a source? That's news to me.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Aside from knowing a lot of mormons in the 90s, i found this:

the person who shared it claims it's from a book called Tribes published in 1992. That tells me it's from The Lost Tribes (1992) by R. Clayton Brough, page 148
also:

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hrm, interesting. I happen to know many current and ex-LDS and I've never heard them say they are not xtians, and I've seen more than a few chafe at being called a "cult" and/or "not true xtians", etc...I could see that above passage being read as lumping all other xtians into a group, but... 🤷

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

oh yeah they will and always have chafed at being called a cult. the whole "not true xtian thing", that i saw them caring about around 2005 i think? there's been lots of "Joey Smith is the new Mohammad" over the decades

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 138 points 1 day ago
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Christian groups want to persecute everyone. Projection at its finest.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Only some Christians. I don't recall the Quakers ever having persecuted anyone. And the various Anabaptist spin-offs don't persecute anyone but themselves.

It's the ones with power that get up to evil shit.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christian’s believe that the only good Christian is a persecuted one. So they create chaos to be persecuted. This mental gymnastics hurts my back.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, they think not being on a pedestal and having their unwarranted privileges slowly peeled away means they are "persecuted".

They also think it's "persecution" when they cannot brainwash other people's children while in captivity at public schools.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Equality for some is persecution and oppression for others.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Very true - I know some xtians just about lose their minds when a "world religions" class is discussed, or talking about "the" bible as literature.

The notion that their chosen lifestyle were to be put on equal footing to other mythologies in an educational setting is just mind-boggling to them and absolutely enrages many of them.

xtians: "We want religion back in the public schools!"

normal Americans: "How about we teach kids about xtianity in the context of other religions? And have "the" bible included as part of Western literature?"

xtians: "NOOOOOOO! NOT LIKE THAT!"

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also think it's persecution when other people aren't forced to follow their religion, like when gay marriage is allowed

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

100% this. They simply cannot comprehend that in a secular nation, their rules are for THEM and not for anyone else that isn't in their little book club.

But they don't want the country to remain secular - they want to "fundamentally change America" (remember when the scary Blah man said that and how terrified they all were - more projection) so that the rules of their little book club are imposed on everyone else.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not on Earth, of course. But when you add up all the persecuted Christians orbiting Alpha Centauri and Romulus and Omicron Persei Eight...

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does Christianity, the largest religion, not simply eat the other religions?

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

They've tried

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So persecuted that we get days off work and school based on their calendar

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Where was she in 2017 when white supremacists firebombed that mosque in Minneapolis? How about it being legal to forbid Jews from enrolling at medical schools in Minnesota until the 1950s?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consider that the whole universe might not have been made for you, then.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have a whole belief system and a sacred book that tells them otherwise.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

So persecuted that they managed to colonize every continent and force their religious laws on people who were there first

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like that's God's will then.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thoughts and prayers shall help, right?

Edit: also, now is not the time for political action, we need at least 50 days from the last shooting, I think.

[–] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

How many religions and cultures has 'christ'ianity wiped out again?

I'd tell them to get fucked, but they already probably have been, nonconsenually, by one of their religious 'leaders'.

[–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago

Neopagans, Zoroastrians, Jews, Middle Eastern Bahá’ís, Muslims outside the Middle East, followers of indigenous religions, Sikhs:

"Am I a joke to you?" reaction image

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

LOL, soooo persecuted.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Oh boy nazis are gonna love this news

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Pedro is disappointed.

She’s piece of shit.

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CATHOLICS!

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