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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

If Lemmy wants to start a war between the Fediverse and Lemmy then let's make it happen, I've already got a piefed.world account set up so I'd love to watch the Lemmy platform die in fire and smoke.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd say don't block anything at the top and let users filter their own feed as they see fit, except blocking communities is not very effective, in my experience.

More robust filtering and sorting for the user would be welcome. For instance, Reddit Enhancement Suite lets me hover over a name that has an "ignore" button for users, and a "filter" button for subs. That's very user-friendly and effective there. The same here would be a good addition.

I understand that the structure of Fediverse makes this more challenging.

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Piefed, what you are describing is Piefed.
Make the jump, it's honestly the best move you can do, having a working block/filter system does wonders for your experience.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

It just works.

I don’t follow this meme terribly well as I don’t know the context.

I hate to learn that there is trouble in the social media that has saved me from corporatocracy and technocracy bullying.

I don’t know a hexbear from a hex

[–] rimu@piefed.social 171 points 22 hours ago (12 children)

PieFed dev here.

The screenshotted post is very misleading. As you'd expect from a hexbearian. It is not a baked-in ban.

Hexbear is mentioned in the PieFed source code, as an initial default value for the defederation list. That list is quite long and includes various instances that have been a source of trolls, CSAM and spam in the past (mostly Mastodon instances). As part of the normal setup process it is assumed that instance admins will review that list and alter it as they see fit. They can change it any time by going to instance.tld/admin/federation.

Do not take anything a hexbearian says at face value.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Thank you for your good work, whats the funding status been like for you lately?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this also wouldn't mean "one way federation" right? There would just be no synching at all.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago

I assume if you are on instance A and post something on instance B, your instance doesn't federate with hexbear but instance B does, then you will not see the comments from the hexbear user through your instance? Not certain if that is how it works or not though.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what this is, an initial defed list. Even the way they present this is disingenous as fuck, calling it a "one way federation, silencing our voices" or some other weird phrasing, making it sound like some underhanded/hidden hardcoded piece just for them, when it's just a boring-ass defederation with one instance among many others. How difficult is it to say "piefed software defederates hexbear by default"? Everyone knows what that fucking means!

I honestly don't understand why everything has to be taken so goddamn uncharitably by the regulars on that instance. It blows my mind how they manage to always act in bad faith. Always.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I honestly don't understand why everything has to be taken so goddamn uncharitably by the regulars on that instance. It blows my mind how they manage to always act in bad faith. Always.

It's pretty straightforward, imo, they built a feedback loop into their instance culture that encouraged social dopamine junkies to participate in toxic behaviors, valuing things like "dunking", othering, and dehumanizing the out group (non-hexies) over things like factuality, good faith, and not being dicks.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 26 points 22 hours ago

Thank you for jumping in.

[–] Master@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago

Maybe you should bake it in then. Maybe you are not going far enough...

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Based.

The only thing better than this was Nutomic whining that he needs more donations to feed his family (he literally said this) but absolutely refusing to just ask Dessalines to chill the fuck out with the tankie censorship shit.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 30 points 1 day ago

It's just a default block on grad and hex when creating a new instance which can be toggled off. Keep coming crying with your ALTs Tankies no one wants to deal with your incessant propaganda.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we need a fediverse-wide boycott of hexbear

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (13 children)
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