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[–] jcs@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago
[–] pinchy@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

At this point that’s almost like ransomware.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At this point, why even have desktop apps at all?

Teams and Outlook are basically busy glorified web browsers that load the online version... Now word is going to send your shit to the cloud whether you like it or not?

Google docs does this, but they don't have a desktop app to deceive you with. You create the doc, and edit it where it is, on the cloud, using a web interface that's vaguely "word"-like.

The only people this will "help" is all the inept business people that can't figure out where to put their data so it's not lost. There's lots of those.

[–] pinchy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It’s way better than a web app! it ships with a separate browser the user has zero control over and with more permissions to abuse. /s

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Yay webview2!

also /s

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Holy fucking shit, what absolute trash

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago

They’re prepared to do anything to get real user data for AI training. This little change gives them easily millions of files per day accidentally saved to cloud.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Microsoft is recognizing that their biggest threat to MS Word is Google Docs, a product they underestimated in the beginning as being a serious choice for word processing.

Saving in the cloud means automatic backups and access from all your devices. Increasingly, people are willing to choose that over the real privacy benefits of local storage.

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If you mind that Word documents are stored in the cloud by default, you need to modify the default setting

...or just use some other app for your private documents and Word only for work-related stuff or such. I use Word/Office at work and have absolutely no issue with all the documentation being saved in the cloud. But for private stuff I would have to think twice if I want this.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

I switched to OnlyOffice for my work files. I have had no compatibility issues with my coworkers

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (9 children)

This might be when I finally jump ship and go to Linux. I should do Mint, right?

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Having switched many relatives to Linux recently too, Mint will be your best jumping off point for a familiar feel and pain free experience as someone new to Linux. If you love that and find yourself wanting more, then the world is your oyster! I started on Mint and ultimately settled on Fedora Plasma after trying out a half dozen different options.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to type stuff into a command line. Like ever. If this is possible then I'm in.

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Haven't had a need to open one the entire time I've been on the OS! Other than for my own development needs, but that's my own use case and nothing to do with operating the OS as a user.

[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Before doing anything you can try out different Linux Distros at Distrosea

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

The most important choice from the beginner is not even the distro, but what window manager to use, that will be your first interface and you need to be comfortable with it first.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Remember that most major distros now offer live ISOs, which means you can easily try them out before committing to an install.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

Yes. You may distro hop eventually, but you will not go wrong starting there from Windows.

I stuck with it. I am OK that somebody else did a really nice configuration out of the box for me. It's still an open Linux system. I make embedded computers do the right thing all day at work, and at home I've been getting more outside work done than ever. So any projects like setting up an Arch install to learn more about linux will at minimum have to wait for winter.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

Just do mint. If you don't like it, try another. I went mint and it felt comfortable and worked so I'm happy with it. Might try Debian next time for more stability and less cutting edge.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Aurora is my go-to nowadays

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I found popos to also be beginner friendly, and I believe at the time it was specifically for people with nvidia cards but I'm not sure that makes a difference anymore.

Either way I liked that popos was being supported as a product by a company selling hardware, it seemed more reliable at the time.

Mint is great too, I believe both have windows style desktops you can choose, and also have app stores you can install programs through instead of using command line.

I'd recommend downloading both and then load them up but dont install them as you can test them out before going through the installation wizard.

Last thing is to make sure you know the category your OS is. You will need to web search for the more general category sometimes, for example with popos it would be Ubuntu. Popos and mint both have great documentation online though and forums and such.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 25 points 6 days ago

You have to click through to a third save dialogue just to choose “Browse my files…”.

[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This made my blood boil, and then I remembered I switched to Linux a month ago... all good.

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[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Why I use libreoffice.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

Jesus christ. So glad I ditched MS. It's like getting out of a cult - once you see it looking in from the outside, you finally realize how terrible it is.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago (7 children)

this operating system still costs like $100

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Operating system sold separately. Some assembly required.

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[–] silt_haddock@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I would love to switch to LibreOffice (or similar) but I haven’t been able to find a way to get tables to work in the same way they do in Excel, and that’s a deal breaker for me. None of the suggested approaches come close to being able to select a range, press ctrl+t and immediately be able to filter/sort/lookup using column names from anywhere in the document. I use that feature dozens of times a day, and so does everyone in my circles that deals with financial data.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

I think you name the range, and then you can do the same using ctrl+shit+L

I may not remember right, but I haves used calc and excel interchangeably since it was open office. Some things in excel drive me up the wall, some things in calc do to.

Either way, the best thing I found was get the data out of spread sheets and into something that can work with it better. Like sql or pandas.

But I get that for financial work, it is a staple. Which frightens me to no end.

[–] Pupscent@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You can purchase the Microsoft apps , word, excel, PowerPoint, as a package that you own. There are no upgrades. You own them.

I am in the process of moving to Linux and Libreoffice at the moment. I'm working at getting myself off of Onedrive.

Once complete I will start the process of getting off Google. I've been using Proton for years and I am going to remove any other online support.

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[–] Technotica@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Windows!

laughs quietly in Linux

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Some executive noticed that they can't sell you larger cloud storage if you haven't used it up.

Then someone on the office copilot team said they wished they had access to more comprehensive data about what people write with office apps and the rest is history.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

GUYS BUT NOW I CAN WORK EVEN FASTER AND EFFICIENT! I DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SAVING BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN CLOUD! IT’S ALWAYS AVAILABLE! WINDOWS IS MOST USED SOFTWARE ON MARKET!

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

See ya Ms Products! I hope you all like that cloud of yours!

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