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[–] bampop@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Not saying it isn't so, but we're looking at 2 characters both specifically written as metaphors for the USA. I guess empires are gonna empire generally

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Average Tory voter what they think they will live like if the Victorian era came back:

Average Tory voter what they will live like if the Victorian era came back:

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Goes for "conservatives" in every country.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Who is the one on the right?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It's Homelander, from "The Boys".

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that's also the US...

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

Any empire, really.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It varies wildly. Many countries are still quite positive about the US - for all of our sins, and they are many, we also have many incidents of supporting other countries, including during decolonization in the 1950s. Whether or not we were better than the Brits, we certainly had a less overt hand than the world's largest empire and, subsequently, dissolution of empire in independence movements against British rule. The absence of that makes for a bit less hostility.

Ultimately, hagiography of the past (or worse, the present) is always bad. Hagiography blinds and prevents correction. "The first step is admitting you have a problem", and all that jazz.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Many countries are still quite positive about the US

… or else

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I mean many countries are still positive in terms of popular sentiment, not government reactions. "Or else" applies more to government reactions - like many countries in MENA, whose populations tend to be negative about the US, but wherein governments are more conciliatory to prevent the US from leveraging economic pressure.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Many countries are still quite positive about the US

I think that is a bit of an outdated claim.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Everyone loves us! We'll be greeted as liberators and given a parade!

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Typical US imperialism apologia

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

At least we admit it. I learned about a lot of shit we did in school.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Definitely not admitting all of it, tbf.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh aye for sure. But not like they pretend none of it happened either

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Eh they do a good job avoiding admitting stuff.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago

or glossing over or obfuscating it.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 11 points 23 hours ago

Although the Faragists are pushing back against the perceived woke-ism of criticising British imperialism and colonialism in general, even back in the 80s and 90s when I went to school there was an overall negative slant in teaching and textbooks.

It definitely needs to be stronger and louder for sure but it's simply not accurate to say anymore (though the tories and Reform certainly want to whitewash things and show only the "good" bits).

[–] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Others'*

Blame the English

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

At least things are better on that front than they were. School textbooks from the 20th century are W I L D in their apologia and whitewashing.

We must keep fighting to excise the cancer of nationalism in history textbooks o7

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

Those English history books are also the main sources of information on Wikipedia.