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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't this like 90% of the reason people prefer android over apple?

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

I doubt most people care that much. I do, but I don't know anyone else who does.

But even if I were to lose this, I would not even consider switching to apple (but I would consider switching to something more open).

[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

This is dystopian.

[–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

2026 - year of the Linux Phone :D

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm gonna try to install chimera linux on my fairphone. then I could use phosh as a window manager and use waydroid so I could have android apps! time to see how crazy that is.

Update: I did a bit of research, and chimera does support aarch64(the architecture of the fairphone 4) and it seems pretty doable, the postmarketos wiki says most features are supported, so we'll see!

[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 5 points 11 hours ago

This will be the last straw for me. I will be looking for Android OS alternatives.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Great i guess it is time to root my phone, and run a custom rom. I haven't had to do that in years because android finally got good.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

It's not about technical utility. It's about freedom.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you use the term "sideloading" you already lost the battle before you finished your sentence

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

The war was lost by default. The one party did not show up to the battle because they never knew a war was on.

[–] yodaka@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I need an OS for phone which is completely controlled by community.

[–] Tortellinius@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How does it compare with LineageOS? What are the pros and cons in your opinion?

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They are very different.

GrapheneOS' whole thing is security and privacy. It's big on sandboxing apps and browser sessions. Google Play and most Android features are opt-in (Google Play Services are also sandboxed). Just check their features.

LineageOS doesn't have most of the above. It's mostly just a regular barebones Android distribution without all the vendor bloat, and a great alternative if you just want more control and less BS (if you've used a Samsung device you will know what I mean - absolutely horrible distribution imo).

[–] Skorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

LineageOS also significantly regresses security compared to barebones AOSP.

  • Userdebug builds
  • No locked bootloader or verified boot
  • Incomplete backports of patches
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Because of using Shelter, this will make my phone practically unusable.

This is fucking ridiculous

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

As would I, but where exactly are we going comrade?

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I honestly wish for the responsible people to die. A natural, painless death, but let it be quick. All of silicon valley is so evil it would be deemed unrealistic for a movie villain. They are selling out our freedoms and planet for what? They are already stinking rich.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess it's time to buy a linux phone

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I wish a Linux tablet will be ready by the time the custom ROMs will be killed off.

[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 4 points 16 hours ago

Support for this will grow, I hope. Linux on PC has been really easy for the past 10 or so years, but phones often have locked bootloaders. There's not that much support for different models either, feels like a work in progress. I hope someone just starts up a volunteer organisation that can provide pre-installed free software. Not just one centralised company, but multiple outlets.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Last I checked, unverified software didn't run the risk of making my phone fly itself into, and bring down, a skyscraper.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Google says it's no different than checking IDs at the airport.

Fucker, if I own the airport, own the planes in the airport, am the only person using my own planes in my own airport, then nobody is asking for my ID.

Our phone, our software choice.

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