How TF did he do a brisket in the same amount of time it would take to make biscuits, which are basically scones, which take 20 minutes?
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And who eats gravy with brisket? Doesn’t sound bad though.
If I was Alton, I'd have laughed my ass off
Brisket and gravy makes sense as a meal, but wtf is biscuits and gravy?
I'm British and there's no end of meals that I would have gravy with, but biscuits isn't one of them.
I can tell it's a cultural/language thing because North Americans call biscuits cookies, but I don't know what they mean by biscuits here.
Ah OK, so biscuit means savoury scones.
Every time I have this conversation with Americans they insist that it's nothing like scones but then they describe something suspiciously sconelike
It’s a buttery scone with the layered texture of a croissant that’s had a weight pressed down on it.
This is the best description
I think it has to do with the fact that every scone I've ever had is particularly dry and very dense. An American biscuit is denser than an average slice of bread, but still generally quite moist and spongy.
Maybe scones hit differently when they are very fresh? In the US we get scones almost exclusively at coffee shops or bakeries from the front window and I've never had one that was offered hot.
Edit: I would suggest a biscuit here is more like... Almost a croissant with thicker layers? Or like a stack of pancakes (made the European "crepe" sort of way, so pretty thin) but with thinner layers? Lol. It's hard to exactly characterize.
Exactly!!
A perfect southern American biscuit is fluffy, layered, tender, buttery. Much more like a croissant than the scones we get here. They are just as good smeared with sweet jam, jellies, and honey as the are paired with mashed potatoes, gravy, and sausages. Usually best served hot, fresh out of the oven. They almost melt in your mouth in a good way. (My grandma made amazing southern biscuits: white flour, cold butter or shortening or lard, baking powder, salt, mix with fingers til crumbly, pour in enough buttermilk to just mix a soft dough. Roll out, cut into rounds, place on baking pan, brush with melted butter, goes into a hot oven. When tops are golden brown pull out and enjoy. They should be double to 3 times the height of rolled out dough. Work fast because overworked dough gets tough and loses some rise)
Scones here are usually cold, dry, dense, and crumbly. I've had sweet and savory scones. They seem like they are made to soak up some sort of liquid or be washed down with coffee or tea. I think we what we get given as scones are either stale or a prank.
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No. Absolutely not. Unlike scones, biscuits have a nice texture.
A good scone is kinda crunchy outside with a nice soft inside. They change texture pretty quickly though.
I'm doing something wrong then. Mine come out more arid than desert sand.
sconophobia is deeply ingrained in the american south
The scones available in the American South suck. They suck when I have made them myself. I've tried 3 different recipes. I can make some buttermilk biscuits though, and they are glorious. So either scones suck, like in general, or they don't bake right in our climate.
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No one in the US eats brisket with gravy. It would typically be a tomato based bbq sauce or nothing.
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It’s not just a language barrier, it’s also a cultural barrier. I can imagine someone being confused by this even if they speak fluent English, as the dish ‘biscuits and gravy’ contains neither biscuits nor gravy.
Um... literally every time I've had biscuits and gravy, it's literally gravy poured over biscuits. Every time. Without fail. It's kind of in the name.
the cultural difference is that the US is the only place in the world that calls “flaky scone-like buttery thing” biscuits
everywhere else in the world, biscuit means cookie or cracker
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Yeah, English is my only language and I was thinking wtf is biscuits and gravy? How does that go together in any way?
It's actually freaking delicious and if you ever visit the USA you should definitely try it at some local family-owned restaurant where they make it from scratch.
Give your fascists the Mussolini treatment and I may consider visiting
Or just make it yourself. The biscuits are dirt simple, butter, flour, baking powder, and just enough water to hold it together. Gravy is just a white flour gravy with lots of pepper. Ingredients are sausage with grease, flour, milk, and pepper.
Season to taste.
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I don't need to imagine this.
I watched the Great British Bakeoff Mexican week.
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I have never seen this show, but I have a hard time believing he managed to entirely cook the wrong thing and no one told him at any point. Unless it was done on purpose to make a good story...
You are totally on point. Here's the source: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hd6r9 (from 18:55).
They noticed right in the beginning and totally didn't do anything to fix the misunderstanding until it was too late. And of course that happened for the purpose to make a good story.
Often on cooking shows like this, contestants will do something creative and different in order to stand out, so it makes sense that they'd wait and see what he's cooking up.
Honestly I think they took the best possible approach, they let the creative create, and when it was revealed that there was in fact a communication breakdown, they handled it fairly and made sure to not penalize the contestant for the host's failure to effectively communicate. This is especially important with such an exceptionally regional dish with many different ways to prepare it. People who haven't spent time in the region that its regularly served in may entirely misunderstand how its supposed to be prepared and served, and that causes there to be incredible variation between recipes and approaches
The main point of any TV show is to entertain. They aren't there to be a fair sports competition to find earth's greatest cook. Especially not for such a low-brow entertainment-first cooking show as cutthroat kitchen.
That part of the episode was decent drama. The mix-up clearly made the scene more interesting. If this was an actually serious cooking show it would not have gone like that. But it's an entertainment show and that's ok as well.
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