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[Article] Speed limit proposed for active transportation routes (www.winnipegfreepress.com)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by NarrativeBear@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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A proposal to keep pedestrian and cycling pathways from turing into "raceways" by city councilor, though local roads that once were public walkways are okay as raceways?

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I'm not from Winnipeg, but this never works. Obviously, these people have not looked into the legal ramifications. A bicycle is unlicensed. This means there is no requirement to have qualified vision, testing, competency, there is no established form of measurement of speed, and no standardization of devices. Places have tried to license bikes for the last 150 years and all have failed. This has an extremely long history of being useless nonsense.

Absolutely every issue involving bikes is extremely simple to solve. All it takes is a designated right if way. Right of way applies to everyone all the time. Foot traffic needs to be reminded of this constantly. A right of way means one person in one lane. It is not a sidewalk, or optional. If you are in North America, and you are not on the right side as far to the right as practicable, you are on the wrong side. Every single problem happens because of stupid people that do not follow the right of way.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In Toronto shared paths are limited to 20Kph, which seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

If close calls or accidents were happening, we should study the causes. Is it due to bikes going faster than it is safe? Due to pedestrians walking in the left/middle of the path? Due to poor visibility around tight corners? Each of those problems have different solutions.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

We barely study the cause of accidents on our roadways in Canada and refuse to believe we could design them safer and instead consider fatal interactions with cars as "accidents". I doubt governments are willing to study this in active transportstion paths given they barely want to fund the paths anyway and most municipalities still consider bicycle gutters as safe.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

City's should look at what the Finnish people are doing, IMO they seem to do it very well. Here is a great video for anyone interested in cycling pathways and how much thought goes into them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yeah, i think some people go too fast in crowded areas of mixed use paths. but that's just my opinion, are people actually getting injured?

i don't think so, but i admittedly don't know for sure. my guess is motor vehicles kill more people per mile than fast bicycles injure or kill on shared paths.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If stuck behind a paywall try this link:

https://archive.ph/20231006022618/https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2023/10/05/speed-limit-proposed-active-transportation-routes

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This didn't work for me. But this did: https://archive.ph/EGNwj

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Paywalled.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I posted a link with the paywall removed in the comments incase anyone else comes up on the same issue.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Tyvm

Harder to do on mobile otherwise I’d likely have done it myself.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Instead of drafting new laws, administering fines, and criminalizing people who are just trying to get their fucking groceries home, how about spend that money on a second trail.

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Need to keep the revenue flowing... Fuckin road pirates