Ooh man, this is what put Piefed on my radar, as I have to move two communities away from a failing Lemmy instance and there's no way to do that in Lemmy. I think I'm gonna give Piefed a serious spin soon.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yea that's a cool feature

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It could use some work though. Subscribers are not ported and there are many nuances with post/comment porting.

Better than nothing though.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you consider how subscribing actually works (or rather: has to work) with federated content, this isn't surprising. There could be some mechanism that uses the old community and some sort of meta-post to trigger the subscriptions to migrate, but the hard part is making that abuse-resistant. Probably too hard?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

I know that Rimu does want to make it so subscribers from a community migrating are transferred. But I imagine this would only work for users based on piefed instances.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

One possible method to limit abuse would be manual approval from both instances.

The Piefed community migration requires a manual request that needs to be approved.

From my discussions with the world admins, they can actually move subscribers between LW and piefed.world (but unlike piefed.social, they won't move posts/comments).

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Better than nothing though.

Definitely

[–] ExtremeDullard@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Perfect. Thanks!

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I prefer piefed.zip to be future proof, we've seen how reluctant people are to migrate once they are settled

[–] irelephant@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 days ago

Anarchist.nexus doesn't have open signups yet

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Considering it's still early days and Piefed has a mere 1.5K MAUs, you might as well go with pieces.social unless we are talking about Canada.

Don't put the cart before the horse so to speak.

P.S. I actively use Piefed, but I need this account for managing a Lemmy community.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel like the same was said about lemmy.world at some time, but once the ball gets rolling it's way harder to stop it

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

True, but with community migration tools built into piefed it is less of an issue long-term.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is some truth to that, but IMO centralisation with LW isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I think its only 35% of Threadiverse MAUs.

Not to mention there are technical reasons for the promince of LW; the inability to cleanly move a community (subscribers, posts, comments) between instances.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think the Lemmy software UX inadvertently over-promotes local communities over remote communities. I'm not sure if it's due to the communities page filtering by local by default, or the fact that local communities have shorter display names? Do they take priority in autocomplete?

I've been meaning to make some comparisons with numbers of posts, comments, and active users for communities that are on lemmy.world with another identical community on another instance.

I haven't used PieFed much so IDK if it's similar there.

But also using the developer's own instance brings a different risk of putting all your eggs in the same basket, look at what happened to Kbin.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But also using the developer's own instance brings a different risk of putting all your eggs in the same basket, look at what happened to Kbin.

Well, to be fair, if rimu just went AWOL - it wouldn't matter what piefed instance everyone went to. The development process would stop and Piefed would degrade.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kbin forked to Mbin and many of the instances upgraded, the same could happen with PieFed but piefed.social would be dead

[–] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is too big or too small a problem?

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Small instances can be less stable. Large instances aren't a problem themselves, but if new users always join the largest instance, that defeats the purpose of decentralization.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piefed.social apparently has banned Pepe the Frog so probably not that as I can't imagine that goes down well with a lot of redditors.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the reason for that

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some alt right idiots were making Pepe memes on 4chan ten years ago so apparently that means we have to let the fascists have him.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ohh same old trope for censorship

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I don't agree with it but what can you do.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

social so they can get the feel of "reddit" without having to deal with thier OVERMODERATION. then they can move from there. although its too small, and some topics arnt as common as are on reddit.

[–] Kroko@feddit.online 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I chose ~~piefed.online~~ feddit.online over the .zip since their instance has been around longer and uses the stable release

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

feddit.online, you mean? It doesn't seem like piefed.online exists.

[–] Kroko@feddit.online 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I confused names 😅