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The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 143 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

lots of us said that this would be exactly what would be happening with masked police using constant escalation dominance as a tactic.

this is civil war behavior from a civilization.

it will also lead to blood feuds between people and the police as a whole. i expect to see more actual police police getting ambushed even if they are in a sanctuary city and are not acting to aid ICE.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago

expect to see more actual police police getting ambushed even if they are in a sanctuary city and are not acting to aid ICE.

Unless the cops start shooting ICE on sight for the safety of their neighborhood, they are complicit and get what they deserve.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

ACAB. Shoot fascists in masks in their masks. Full stop.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lots of us said that this would be exactly what would be happening

And this is also what they wanted, they WANT people to start firing on cops in masks, this is the escalation they need to make the excuse for turning the US into a massive locked-down corporate prison.

"What's that? People are shooting at our precious law enforcement heroes?? Let loose the Palantir Drones! FLY MY PRETTIES!"

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[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 209 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Schrödinger’s cop. Every masked creep with a power complex is simultaneously a dangerous criminal you should shoot on sight for your own protection and a police officer with qualified immunity. The waveform collapses when you get tried for murder, if you win it was a criminal all along, but if you get the electric chair it was a cop.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 412 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I was surprised that the masked men weren't law enforcement. Police hiding their faces because fascism is just standard procedure under President Epstein.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 246 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Police said if you're ever unsure whether it is really the police outside your door, there are some signs to look for.

"Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we'll be announcing ourselves," HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

An interesting development

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Breonna Taylor's ghost would like a word.

Seriously, her boyfriend was arrested (but acquitted) for returning fire in their home when police had no lights, no sirens, and no bullhorn.

This officer's advice does not apply anywhere that no-knock warrants can still be obtained.

[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 10 points 1 day ago

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

I wonder if this could be cited in court in the case of someone accidentally killing ICE agents, thinking they were robbers or worse.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 186 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love that I read your comment, then backed out to the main feed and the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask

The logical conclusion is that that is not a real officer.

[–] craigers@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Appropriate username

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

What do you mean, it's clearly a goverment officer, it says it right there on the ground!

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we’ll be announcing ourselves,”

They always announce themselves except when they don't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 176 points 1 day ago (17 children)

"Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks."

It's going to be very, very interesting to see how this one turns out!

Always a good idea to be aware of lethal force rules where you live:

In this case, Houston, Texas:

https://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/blog/self-defense-or-assault-when-using-force-is-justified-under-texas-law/

"The Role of the Castle Doctrine in Texas

The Castle Doctrine is a key element of Texas self-defense laws. This principle allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, to protect themselves in their homes, vehicles, or workplaces without a duty to retreat. Under Texas law, your “castle” is considered a place where you have a legal right to be, and force may be justified when:

Someone unlawfully enters or attempts to enter your home.

The intruder is committing or attempting to commit a violent act, such as robbery or assault.

You reasonably believe force is necessary to protect yourself or others.

There are some limitations to this principle. For example, the use of force is typically not justified if the intruder is retreating or if you initiated the altercation."

So, assuming the story is accurate, and remember, initial reports are almost always INACCURATE...

"At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire."

So, yeah, as soon as they shot through the door, Castle Doctrine is in play.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

In reality, if the masked intruder you shoot happens to be a cop, then Castle Doctrine is irrelevant. You're now a cop murderer. They'll figure out some legal or extra-legal way to see you behind bars or dead.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can we Gofundme him a new door?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 78 points 1 day ago

Good. ICE and lookalikes are cut from the same putrid cloth, that is best disposed of.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 66 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Police said if you're ever unsure whether it is really the police outside your door, there are some signs to look for.

"Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we'll be announcing ourselves," HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.

Sir, please go turn on your siren and announce yourself on the bullhorn so I can confirm you're a real cop.

How is that their actual advice...

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Link redirects to their Youtube channel instead of showing the article?
https://www.youtube.com/@KHOU

[–] Ethanol@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, I had the same problem. Probably because I'm connecting from Europe.
Here's a link from the Internet archive where you can read the article.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICE wear masks, and no-knock warrants are a thing.

Kudos to the home owner for being vigilant and shooting BACK once they opened fire

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[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

I love happy endings.

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