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The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

I dunno. Depends on the agency, these days.

I hope the people directing ICE to mask up take notes of this. They won't. If they do, they'll take the wrong lesson from it.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, the original statement was correct. Real law enforcement does not wear ski masks. Scared Nazi cosplayers wear ski masks.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

By all accounts, ICE are real law enforcement, with the power, and authority of the state to enact the will of the ruling class on us.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Close enough I suppose. I think of them as Decree Enforcement. Nothing lawful about how they act.

[–] cute_noker@feddit.dk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Scared Nazi cosplayers wear ski masks.

And they are bestowed power above the justice system by the commander in beef

Wishful thinking is enticing

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shame this doesn't happen more often.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised it hasn't

[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

In other news two positions for ICE officers just opened up for the Huston area.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I was wondering where this would happen first. TX makes sense. They have more ICE than any other state.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 164 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I feel the headline should have noted that he shot in response to them shooting through his goddamn door first.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Journalistic reflex; cops are always innocent.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

BREONNA TAYLOR, member her? Just a raid gone wrong

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

There have been do many stories of police botched a raid and killed people exercising their 2d Amendment rights in non-threatening ways. Typically the 2A nuts still rally around the cops.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

Someone tell the fascist brownshirts that work for ICE that.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

ISE doesn't wear ski masks. They wear balaclavas. They're totally different and easy distinguishable in the dark during high stress situations. /s

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 131 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Quote "Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks. "

So law enforcement just went on record saying ICE agents with masks are not actually law enforcement.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

this quote should form the basis of any defense arguments for future ICE shootings

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I support this and agree.

[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I feel like if someone dressed up as ice and joined in a raid only to cause internal chaos could deeply hinder the operations of ICE as they all become suspicious of each other and lose trust in their team.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have a prediction: the more professional and organized members of ICE would actually be foreign agents, causing problems at key points. Say, for example, "vanishing" unfriendly politicians. ICE is the perfect cover: Low recruitment standards, no regulation, bounties for those times you need to get money, and no one able to ask questions.

It would be the chaotic and unprofessional members of ICE that are native to the USA. Those would be just into ICE for the money and racism, not patriotism to their nation. This will become a "Lions Led by Donkeys" episode in a decade or two.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finally, some good wholesome news

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hole'some news indeed

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Probably realised they weren't real police because they knocked rather than just kicked his door in and shot his dog.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 129 points 2 days ago (1 children)

HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.... that real officers do not wear ski masks.

🤔

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Detective Stringer doesn’t watch the news.

[–] WalterLego@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Detective Stringer makes a well calculated statement about his stance on ICE.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 424 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

I was surprised that the masked men weren't law enforcement. Police hiding their faces because fascism is just standard procedure under President Epstein.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 251 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Police said if you're ever unsure whether it is really the police outside your door, there are some signs to look for.

"Obviously, a police car with some sort of lights and sirens and a bullhorn where we'll be announcing ourselves," HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

An interesting development

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 189 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I love that I read your comment, then backed out to the main feed and the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

the very next post is of a pig wearing what is effectively a ski mask

The logical conclusion is that that is not a real officer.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago
[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 212 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Schrödinger’s cop. Every masked creep with a power complex is simultaneously a dangerous criminal you should shoot on sight for your own protection and a police officer with qualified immunity. The waveform collapses when you get tried for murder, if you win it was a criminal all along, but if you get the electric chair it was a cop.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 145 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

lots of us said that this would be exactly what would be happening with masked police using constant escalation dominance as a tactic.

this is civil war behavior from a civilization.

it will also lead to blood feuds between people and the police as a whole. i expect to see more actual police police getting ambushed even if they are in a sanctuary city and are not acting to aid ICE.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 days ago

expect to see more actual police police getting ambushed even if they are in a sanctuary city and are not acting to aid ICE.

Unless the cops start shooting ICE on sight for the safety of their neighborhood, they are complicit and get what they deserve.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago

Good for the homeowner. Any "law enforcement officer" who hide their faces and wont show ID are probably acting criminally and they should not be tolerated by society.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hope the homeowner is acquitted of any wrongdoing or damages in court.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's texas. He'll probably get a medal or something from his local law enforcement and a round of talk shows on fox if the colors line up with what fox likes/doesn't like.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

I'm from the area. It all depends on how white and Republican you are. They stack the Grand Juries with "respectable members" of the community (white, male business owners typically) who no-bill white folk for killing minorities.

In a very public case, a white small business owner/homeowner shot 2 unarmed minorities in the back, killing both as they fled a neighbor's house. They never stepped on the killer's property and never threatened anyone. The homeowner called 911 and said he was going to kill them and get away with it. The operator said not to shoot and to go inside because police were just seconds away, and he killed them anyway.

The grand jury refused to let the prosecutor take the case to trial because killing black people is a public benefit in their eyes.

So the families of the victims sued the killer, and the state responded by outlawwing civil suits over any case involving a firearm that didn't first include a felony conviction.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

If it was cops or ICE, everything else the same, they would definitely be in custody on a $100 million bond and charged with murder and terrorism.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 182 points 3 days ago (17 children)

"Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks."

It's going to be very, very interesting to see how this one turns out!

Always a good idea to be aware of lethal force rules where you live:

In this case, Houston, Texas:

https://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/blog/self-defense-or-assault-when-using-force-is-justified-under-texas-law/

"The Role of the Castle Doctrine in Texas

The Castle Doctrine is a key element of Texas self-defense laws. This principle allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, to protect themselves in their homes, vehicles, or workplaces without a duty to retreat. Under Texas law, your “castle” is considered a place where you have a legal right to be, and force may be justified when:

Someone unlawfully enters or attempts to enter your home.

The intruder is committing or attempting to commit a violent act, such as robbery or assault.

You reasonably believe force is necessary to protect yourself or others.

There are some limitations to this principle. For example, the use of force is typically not justified if the intruder is retreating or if you initiated the altercation."

So, assuming the story is accurate, and remember, initial reports are almost always INACCURATE...

"At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire."

So, yeah, as soon as they shot through the door, Castle Doctrine is in play.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is why is a good idea to have an armed citizenry and well-regulated militias operating with transparency.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Circle pattern the door and your bound to hit the bastards. Glad to read the mask is backfiring.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No details on the nationality of the homeowner? I wonder if they are Hispanic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some MAGA zealots tried to play ICE and it turned out like this.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can we Gofundme him a new door?

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[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 22 points 2 days ago

Nice.

Doesn't surprise me that this sort of this is starting to take off in Houston.

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