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The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

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[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 4 points 36 minutes ago

In other news two positions for ICE officers just opened up for the Huston area.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

I was wondering where this would happen first. TX makes sense. They have more ICE than any other state.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks.

Someone tell the fascist brownshirts that work for ICE that.

Id rather they didn't.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Finally, some good wholesome news

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Hole'some news indeed

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 131 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I feel the headline should have noted that he shot in response to them shooting through his goddamn door first.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Journalistic reflex; cops are always innocent.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

BREONNA TAYLOR, member her? Just a raid gone wrong

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 111 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Quote "Stringer noted that real officers do not wear ski masks. "

So law enforcement just went on record saying ICE agents with masks are not actually law enforcement.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 29 minutes ago

I support this and agree.

[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like if someone dressed up as ice and joined in a raid only to cause internal chaos could deeply hinder the operations of ICE as they all become suspicious of each other and lose trust in their team.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I have a prediction: the more professional and organized members of ICE would actually be foreign agents, causing problems at key points. Say, for example, "vanishing" unfriendly politicians. ICE is the perfect cover: Low recruitment standards, no regulation, bounties for those times you need to get money, and no one able to ask questions.

It would be the chaotic and unprofessional members of ICE that are native to the USA. Those would be just into ICE for the money and racism, not patriotism to their nation. This will become a "Lions Led by Donkeys" episode in a decade or two.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you think it's only foreign agents who would use ICE as cover to disappear politicians they don't like?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

I don't. However, it is the most obvious way for other nations to attack America without drawing attention. Hopefully, the same vulnerability would also allow the John Browns of our time to crack open concentration centers from the inside.

Why would they need to be 'foreign'(

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 43 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Probably realised they weren't real police because they knocked rather than just kicked his door in and shot his dog.

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[–] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 5 points 13 hours ago

The solution is more guns don't you know!

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 50 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hope the homeowner is acquitted of any wrongdoing or damages in court.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

It's texas. He'll probably get a medal or something from his local law enforcement and a round of talk shows on fox if the colors line up with what fox likes/doesn't like.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

I'm from the area. It all depends on how white and Republican you are. They stack the Grand Juries with "respectable members" of the community (white, male business owners typically) who no-bill white folk for killing minorities.

In a very public case, a white small business owner/homeowner shot 2 unarmed minorities in the back, killing both as they fled a neighbor's house. They never stepped on the killer's property and never threatened anyone. The homeowner called 911 and said he was going to kill them and get away with it. The operator said not to shoot and to go inside because police were just seconds away, and he killed them anyway.

The grand jury refused to let the prosecutor take the case to trial because killing black people is a public benefit in their eyes.

So the families of the victims sued the killer, and the state responded by outlawwing civil suits over any case involving a firearm that didn't first include a felony conviction.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

So I looked up the case for anyone's edification what happened is 2 pieces of human garbage were robbing his neighbor and running away with bags of their valuables. Aside from being robbers they had criminal convictions in Columbia for drug trafficking.

When confronted by the shotgun wielding neighbor the dangerous drug trafficking robbers refused his order for them to stop and one ran onto the neighbor's yard TOWARDS the shotgun wielding neighbor and the other ran away. He shot both.

Quoth the shooter

Horn, to dispatcher: "I had no choice. They came in the front yard with me, man. I had no choice."

Because of this the rest of the neighborhood wasn't victimized by drug dealing robbers breaking into their houses. Nobody ultimately had a run in with scumbags because someone was home when the robbers thought the place was empty. Nobodies family members got murdered to avoid leaving witnesses. Nobodies sanctity got violated.

But don't worry the New Black Panthers protested the scumbags deaths and threatened the fellow making their entire side look deranged and unreasonable when there are plenty of bad shoots by trigger happy cops perpetrated against actually innocent victims they could have been focusing on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The shooter told 911 they were coming at him, after basically saying he wanted to go kill them. The police officer who witnessed the killing said they were fleeing and that he shot them in the back.

I'm not some anti-gun dude. I own over 50 guns and used to work in the industry.

But that motherfucker should be in jail. Non-violent criminals don't deserve the death penalty - least of all from some psycho neighbor who has a hard-on for violence and essentially announces his intent to kill before going outside and killing.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't care. I don't care if drug dealers robbing people got shot. I'm on balance a little happier that they got whacked because they literally represent a threat to people like myself and my family whereas I will never have to worry about getting shot robbing people.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

This definitely shows a lot of perspective, thank you!

I really wish people looked at these cases more objectively, considering the humans involved and not simply:

"How can I paint this to forward my narrative obsession of the moment?"

It's like our entire society is based around social media clout farming. I know weaponized reporting is nothing new, but sheesh.

I wouldn't feel I had much choice either, if someone who just robbed a neighbor was charging at me in the dark. Suddenly after the fact, the internet is chock full of experts in ballistics and self defense law.

But you're right, it definitely defeated a future threat to the neighborhood residents. I haaaaate suburban Rambo Nextdoor toughguys as much as the next reasonable person, but this doesn't sound like that.

There's plenty of systemic issues to tackle around crime, but breaking into peoples' homes to loot and potentially harm them is always a choice carrying a significant weight of FAFO.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Saying non-violent burglars and drug users deserve to die because Joe really wanted an excuse to kill isn't exactly objective.

The only witness to the killing was a plainclothes officer who said he shot people in the back while fleeing.

Stealing shit isn't a capital offense. As a society, we decided long ago that even a judge and jury can't kill someone for burglary. Why is it okay when the psycho neighbor who isn't even a victim does it?

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Breaking into a home isn't non-violent. People break into places that they THINK are empty all the time or have the victims come home during the robbery all the time. If they keep doing this they will with 100% certitude come into direct conflict sooner rather than later. Furthermore the act of violating someone's home is inherently a violation. Your argument is like saying rape is non-violent if nobody fights back.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago

If it was cops or ICE, everything else the same, they would definitely be in custody on a $100 million bond and charged with murder and terrorism.

I'd say you're right, but the kidnappers were cops.

Yeah not offilicially, but they had masks and guns and ill intent and were claiming the titled, so cop unions will pressure prosecutors to go hard.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 124 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HPD Detective Kyle Stringer told Choi.... that real officers do not wear ski masks.

🤔

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Detective Stringer doesn’t watch the news.

[–] WalterLego@lemmy.zip 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Detective Stringer makes a well calculated statement about his stance on ICE.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No details on the nationality of the homeowner? I wonder if they are Hispanic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some MAGA zealots tried to play ICE and it turned out like this.

[–] III@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Why "play" when MAGA zealots can just become ICE agents and get paid to be racist and violent?

[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 22 points 21 hours ago

Nice.

Doesn't surprise me that this sort of this is starting to take off in Houston.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Good. Keep your home safe. I'm not big on how guns are handled in the US, but your home is your home, and law enforcement must be clearly identifiable.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago

Circle pattern the door and your bound to hit the bastards. Glad to read the mask is backfiring.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago

Good for the homeowner. Any "law enforcement officer" who hide their faces and wont show ID are probably acting criminally and they should not be tolerated by society.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is why is a good idea to have an armed citizenry and well-regulated militias operating with transparency.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I agree, and I still feel much of our country's gun safety issues are educational and cultural issues, rather than permission itself.

I do NOT believe in mandatory military service, but I do think our citizens should be much better taught in how to be useful, reasonably disciplined, and coordinated human beings, to themselves and others. This shouldn't be just "soldier training."

Emergency management, wound care, and team coordination should not be "specialized training." Then maybe sense would become more common and organized, sane militias would be viable.

Instead, things like "wearing a mask above your nose" and "not shooting yourself in the foot" are excused by "lack of specialized training." Good Lord, I weep for the species.

Human beings are incredibly capable, and on the whole we've let ourselves be domesticated into consumer cattle...

I believe education is constantly gutted by these loons WHILE they push the gun-religion and rugged-individualist narrative so that the uneducated 'muricans FEEL tough, but stay effectively powerless to coordinate a resistance to actual tyranny.

Hell, they can't even recognize it right in front of them anymore, or in their hearts and minds.

But hey, let's keep our chins up! Maybe leftist gun ownership will be a cool symbol of freedom now, and we can openly mock the neolib "only cops should be able to protect you" disarmament fairytale.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 141 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

lots of us said that this would be exactly what would be happening with masked police using constant escalation dominance as a tactic.

this is civil war behavior from a civilization.

it will also lead to blood feuds between people and the police as a whole. i expect to see more actual police police getting ambushed even if they are in a sanctuary city and are not acting to aid ICE.

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