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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ah, I understand now. He's employing the strategy of switching parties so quickly in an effort to clip through the wall and secure either the Democratic or Republican nomination when the electoral system sees he's out of bounds and pushes him back into a party.

Speedrunners employ similar strategies.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Ready to watch Cornell West slide up the steps of the White House backwards and on his ass

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Lmao can you imagine “As a surprise ending to a long primary process, The Republican Party has officially nominated Dr. Cornel West as its presidential candidate over Donald Trump. Chris Christie is the first of the primary candidates to endorse Dr. West.”

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

I prefer my presidential candidates to be unassisted

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He keeps changing parties, will there be a 4th one?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

he's gonna be running on the juan guaido ticket at this rate

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

his politics might not be great but clowning on the american electoral system is still funny

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

please.... doctor west just retire, legacy intact.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have some bad news about his legacy second-plane

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yeah most people dont know about that. if you talk to an average person who knows his name, hes the guy who promotes a love ethic and criticized Obama on tv and some stuff about the black church. im not kidding when ive had a friend gasp when ive levered the lightest criticism against him. ive also had a prof act shocked when i said he was wrong about saying black schools need a "classical" education. i dont think ive ever met someone who didnt like him irl (i have been told online that im antiblack for criticizing him, and to leave him alone because hes old, I think thats how most people feel, they are atached to the idea of him) . he could retire now, and his impact on the world would still be a mostly positive one.

this is a fun vid of 6 black breadtubers talking about him. even when critiquing they still give him his flowers https://youtu.be/8S7-AqFAHck?si=tHPE2noRlEa0S2Lv

[–] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a symptom of not having many vocal, public leftist figures in the USA. In the 90s you really only had like two people, Cornel West and Noam Chomsky. The radicalism of the 60s and 70s had long since been smothered by the reactionary 80s, so literally between the early 90s all the way until Sanders in 2016, there just weren't a lot of public leftist voices.

West would be on TV in the 90s and 00s, which I think was a huge part of his legacy and image. He'd be on national TV saying stuff like systemic racism, or imperialism, and I remember he was even saying stuff about trans rights as far back as the early 90s. So he definitely had his place, I guess, but maybe he was one of the view that managed to fill the complete vacuum void of how empty/defeated the 90s were for leftists.

In any case, West's just a personality figure who likes doing speeches and selling books. You're right that he could retire now and have a mostly positive legacy. He's been correct his entire career about structural racism, but in essence he's just a professor and we can't expect him to have been a revolutionary or anything.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

yeah i fully agree, i dont thinks hes a revolutionary but hes had such a positive influence it would take a whole lot of bullshit to undo that.

and I remember he was even saying stuff about trans rights as far back as the early 90s

i was a christian tween when i first heard him (someone well respected in the black church) talk positively of queer people and how homophobia in hip hop music was a problem. it meant a lot.

[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Funniest Shitposting campaign, defending Ron Desantis at one Communist Party to calling for his execution at the next

"I have run as a candidate for every communist party in the United States [challenge]"

Going to be the first line in his legacy subsection on Wikipedia

[–] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Peter Daou is running his campaign.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

WHAT THE FUCK

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

He's doing what the unions wanted him to do

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm too lazy to watch a video, but didn't he switch from People's Party to Green for poll access? Now as an independent he'd have to get his own poll access right?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i'll be honest, i have no idea why the greens exist, who is donating to them, or what they expect to achieve. the communist parties that run, tiny as they are, at least know they're gonna lose.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

As for most countries in the west: The anti-nuclear movement of the 80s + de-radicalization of the 70s New Left. Or parties founded modeled after the above

As for the US, the Ralph Nader 2000 Presidential Campaign and its consequences, probably.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Has he even explained why? I couldn't find anything.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vanity and money is my best guess. It's hard to say. His campaign is being run by our old friend Peter Daou, who is a genuine true believer I think. He was all behind Clinton in 2016, but had a massive change of heart to become more progressive in recent years (hence why we started calling him Chairman Daou)

Maybe West thinks this is the best way to keep a progressive platform vocalized to the public absent a figure like Bernie Sanders. I don't think he's under any impression he'll actually win.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Daou is definitely a true believer, but what that belief is in seems pretty arbitrary

[–] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Mostly just himself from what I've heard.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Lol.

i just wanna know if i can vote for orb mommy this year fr fr

[–] D61@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

It will be hilarious if, at the time of actually casting votes, he running as a Republican.