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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Couldn't be that most Americans can't afford new cars.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (24 children)

It ain’t the junk in the garage, it’s the $80k and the spyware

[–] aword@feddit.online 60 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Yup. Find me a car that respects my privacy and won't advertise to me and I'm in.

Edit to add: and no fuucking subscriptions to enable things the car can already do but disabled in software.

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[–] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that do the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)

Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.

Blame those greedy corporations, not the technology.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

exactly, data collection is an issue with new cars in general. It's not a reason to buy a new ICE car instead of a new EV.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (12 children)

It is a reason to not buy a new car which means people who aren't buying new cars won't be buying EV's.

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (10 children)

What about transit? Why do Americans always have to drive. We need real alternatives to cars.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The suburban sprawl makes building transit a lot harder but to fix that we need to increase density but then it’s hard to increase density when you need space for cars because you have no usable transit

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most suburbs have plenty of density to support transit as proved in other countries that provide good transit to their areas of similar density. However most suburbs have such bad transit you can't use it for anything and to people start believing the idea that it is impossible to get them good transit and so they won't agree to get it.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The American style suburbs where you have just single family homes and the closest stores are 5 miles away?

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[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen America? It's huge.

There's also way more to America than the metropolitan cities you've been conditioned to prioritize.

[–] oh_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes. I grew up in the Midwest. In rural America. I live in a city now on the west coast… Transit is a great option for metropolitan areas. U.S. cities in general have terrible transit options, big highways ruining core city areas and no thought of pedestrians in many areas. We need to start with fixing that. Slowing down urban corridors, taking away parking, adding better light rail to encourage less use of cars. Yes, in rural areas and outlying areas cars will of course still be needed. It’s a huge country.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Chicken and egg situation, Americans drive because that’s how their cities and suburbs are laid out (excluding NYC, for the most part).

They don’t rely on alternatives because they are slow, inconvenient or non-existent; alternatives can’t be built up as the costs can’t be justified based on existing patronage levels.

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (16 children)

How about talking to the landlords who refuse to install EV chargers? Or maybe talk to manufacturers who won't sell a basic EV that isn't overpriced?

This is just "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong!" again.

[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 1 points 3 days ago

Or maybe talk to manufacturers who won’t sell a basic EV that isn’t overpriced?

This is huge. Keep in mind, every additional bullshit "feature" in your car will end up costing you more than it costs the business.

This is why we've been conditioned to accept so much superfluous bullshit as possible.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Stupid article. You don't need 240 V , you can charge with a regular wall plug. For a lot of usage patterns this is more than enough.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That's irrelevant because as far as I know you don't actually have to have the car in the garage to be able to charge it you can put the charger on the outside if you want.

Also I don't know how it is in America but my garage is literally too small for the car, I can just about get it in there but then I'm stuck because I can't open the door far enough to get out.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 28 points 5 days ago

People can't afford a new car, let alone an EV, let alone a carport or car hole.

This is just tone deaf poor blaming.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

Weird. I haven’t had a garage in a most of the places I’ve lived as an adult and I drive electric and charge at home just fine.

[–] richardmtanguay@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

I don't have a driver's license, so I don't have to worry about that! :-)

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

If you need to top off with 200 - 300 miles of range every night, you commute sucks giant donkey balls.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

pretty sure it's the lack of money that's hurting ev adoption.

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[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 1 points 3 days ago

No, it's the price.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Money and options are hurting my adaption rate

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I moved in to a house with a garage and my in laws are constantly trying to give us crap to fill it up.

I don’t even know where they’re getting this stuff, they just show up and are like “oh, we’re getting rid of this dresser, we thought you’d like it” or “or, I bought this antique trunk at a yard sale, can you hold on to it”.

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