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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A number is just a type of vector

[–] azi@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

*a subtype of vector

vector is a type not a kind :P

Overly simplified math meme is bad. Take it down

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

These collections also happen to follow a few specific geometric rules.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

A scalar is just a 0th order tensor

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

A tensor is a special box of numbers that doesn't change under coordinate transformation.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 1 points 3 minutes ago

Which is really a roundabout way of saying a tensor is a multilinear relationship between arbitrary products of vectors and covectors. They're inherently geometric objects that don't depend on a choice of coordinate system. The box of numbers is just one way of looking at a tensor, like a matrix is to a linear transformation on a vector space

[–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't a tensor the generalization of scalar, vector matrix and so on? (PLUS the invariance under coordinate transforms?)

A box would be 3-dimensional indicating that tensors have 3 indices when in reality they have n-indices. Ir am i reading it wrong?

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

It's an n-dimensional box

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Where does this definition come from?

All the geometric definitions of tensors I have met always assumed a base, such that a change of coordinate or of parametrization would change the values of the tensor. Unless you define the tensor by its action instead of its values?

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

That's exactly correct. It's similar to how a vector in R^2 is just an arrow with a magnitude and a direction. When you represent that arrow in different bases, the arrow itself isn't changing, just the list of numbers you use to represent them. Likewise, tensors do not change when you change bases, but their representations as n dimensional grids of numbers do change.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Tensors are defined independent of any basis, although they are often referred to by their components in a basis related to a particular coordinate system; those components form an array, which can be thought of as a high-dimensional matrix.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A Pi is just an endless string of numbers.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hnghhhhh I can't agree. Its decimal representation is an endless string of digits, yes. However, in base π, π is represented by only one digit.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

3.14% of sailors are pirates.

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

This joke makes me sqrt(-1)%

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 9 points 22 hours ago

But a grid can just be a number with a list of numbers. A tensor is just two numbers with a list of numbers. A n-tensor is just two lists of numbers. Two lists can be combined with a number to indicate when they split. If we put that number at the start of the list, then we just have a list.

Everything is just a list of numbers.

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To approach from another angle...

Tensors are generalizations of scalars (that have no indices), vectors (that have exactly one index), and matrices (that have exactly two indices) to an arbitrary number of indices.

https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Tensor.html

[–] PlexSheep 4 points 21 hours ago

That makes a lot of sense

[–] socsa@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Excuse me, but a tensor is actually a blob of numbers which extends the concept of a matrix to a generic sequence and stride data structure.

[–] marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago

Caught one!

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

a tensor is just an element of a tensor product. and a tensor product is just a way to multiply algebraic structures

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Can you all keep it down! You’re mathing too loudly for this time of night. Some of us have to get up early(ish).

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago

And this is the reason why no one knows what a tensor is. (This also completely blows up in your face as soon as you have infinite dimensions)

[–] zo0@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Avengers Endgame is just a stream of numbers

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of creation is just a stream of numbers

And we call that physics

And that is beautiful

[–] zo0@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Your mom is an endless stream of numbers

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You really did a number on this one

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He's doing numbers!

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

A tensor is one that transforms like a tensor 🤯

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 11 points 1 day ago

You're quite a number bee hat tip emoji

[–] Una@europe.pub 7 points 1 day ago

I am THE NUMBER

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean... it also has to be linear too, but sure okay ☺️

[–] verstra@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What has to be linear? Vector?matrix? Tensor? Neither makes sense

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

You lost me at vectors not having to be linear. You can apply nonlinear functions or operations to vectors, but doing so transforms them into a different, non-linear context, afaik. We might be using different definitions of some of these terms, especially "linear".

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Linear" describes transformations, not numbers.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn't a tensor a multilinear map taking as input a tensor and outputting another tensor?

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago

Also, but that is because math likes to reuse names like Donald Duck reuses his jacket…

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

You just used "tensor" to define "tensor," but also any list of number formulated as an n-dimensional matrix will satisfy this criterion. A tensor is both a linear transformation and an n-dimensional box-shaped list of numbers, but there's nothing such as a linear list of numbers.