Manufacturers secure their vehicles against unauthorized repair, not against theft.
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Also it's mostly security through obscurity. It is just difficult enough to dissuade most people, but not actually secure because that costs money.
Blaming the flipper zero for hacking is like blaming lockpicking tools for why masterlock sucks so much.
"And to prove it's not a fluke we'll do it again!"
This article convinced me to buy a flipper (I've been debating it for years). It's a super useful item that is absolutely going to get banned/hamstrung any day now for putting too much power into people's hands under the guise of "public safety".
I want it because it's so easy to use. I'm no hacker, but with a tool as convenient as this I'm sure I can piece some useful hacks together.
I did this the last time an article about Flipper Zero’s hacking abilities went viral. I was worried about the same thing. Never came to pass, but now I use it to find microchips in lost animals so it was worth it.
https://github.com/Next-Flip/Momentum-Firmware
You're gonna want this. Removes the locked down parts of the OFW, among other quality of life improvements.
It's not the firmware in the article but if you want that you'll have to find that loser's telegram yourself and pay him for serial locked horse shit.
https://github.com/djsime1/awesome-flipperzero
Also this. Bunch of files to help you get started. Uberguidoz repo (linked there) especially.
Canada already banned it. Wish I'd got one sooner
Pretty sure that ban was walked back?
It was indeed. My apologies. I guess the article walking back the ban didn't get as much traction as the one banning it.
No apologies needed. Although, ordering one before they reban it again may or may not be something to consider.
It's cool but not magic. If you're trying to fuck with something, you need to know what frequency it's on and what sort of signals do what. There is a bunch of preloaded stuff though, and a wide variety of tools like radio frequencies, nfc, Bluetooth, rfid, and infrared. So far the most useful thing I've done is turn the volume down on fox News on tvs in public areas.
Oh one thing I still have to try: some, maybe most handicap buttons for doors are actually radio frequency based and not hard wired, so if you can capture and replay the open signal, you could open a door without hitting the button and look totally jedi.
You can already do that by making the hand motion at an automatic door.
If someone ever calls you on it, just say that you find their lack of faith disturbing.
"ethical hacker's swiss army knife" I hate it when they always add "ethical". First of all, when you say ethical you mean law-fearing, they don't really care about ethics and, secondly, "regular" hackers use it too, so it's just a hacker's swiss army knife...
My ethical gun is safer than your criminal gun.
Tbf, unironically yes. The most dangerous part of a gun is the thing attached to the grip. A real "problem exists between keyboard and chair" situation.
The real issue here is that the systems that car manufacturers use for their vehicles are insecure and outdated. The Flipper Zero is just exposing their bad design decisions.
On the bright side, all the car thieves that knew how to open a steering lock have all grown up, so a club lock is probably going to be the best defence outside of a kill switch. Great for road rage, too
"We're seeing an increase in new care purchases" "What changed?" "We made them super easy to steal"
If you can hack a car with a flipper zero, then the car manufacturers failed to implement the most basic security protocols. Complain to them, and demand a fix.
Trouble is the move to complete computerization. Back in the day we had physical keys which turned a physical switch to physically connect the power from battery to wake ECU. Now, we have a button that sends a REQUEST to the ECU to turn on or off, and as long as an acceptable transponder is around it will accept the request. If you turn your car off when u hit that stop button it REQUESTS that the ECU shut down assuming conditions are met. I have had a problem 202w wrangler JL turn on fine but refuse to shut off untill you pulled the terminals off the battery. This new age hyper computerized nonsense is why every mechanic hates these new age techno bullshit wanna-be computer appliances on wheels, canbus can be awesome for keeping all modules on the same page but one bad wire and the whole system takes a shit.
202w wrangler
Well, Jeep is not really a name for good innovation. They are stuck with a management that still thinks "mechanics" and sees electronics as a pure profit center, not as a gear in the system that has to be as reliable as the rest of it.
Yea I have not been impressed with the Stellantis products of late lol. If I want to own a complicated headache I'll just buy a bmw or Audi lol (of which I have had both and both have been more dependable and straight forward than these new Chrysler products...)
You didn't buy the upgraded package the stereo told you about, that's why: https://www.newsweek.com/stellantis-dodge-car-drivers-adverts-pop-ups-2045033
Give us fucking keys and BUTTONS. We dont want or need this tech shit they want to shove into everything so they can show cancerous growth to ther shareholders.
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And here I am just using my flipper zero to turn my fan on and off since the remote that came with it sucks.
Same. This whole time I could be driving a new car each day. What a waste.
Just go to a car park, close your eyes, spin around 3 times and hit the flipper zero.
It's like a lucky dip!
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It is true that this device can be used nefariously. But it's just a computer with a wide variety of very basic and common communication methods along with software to exploit them. There are many other computers like it that are just less popular. And to ban it is to ban said basic communication hardware like radio, WiFi, NFC, etc.
The solution is to mandate companies to provide a minimum level of security. Even giant companies with good reputations have giant security holes, like Apple or your bank, implementing mandatory SMS as 2FA. That shit should be illegal.
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To be clear, the flipper is just a Girl Tech IM-me with an NFC chip. If it lets people do a thing, that thing has been possible for decades. Just wait until someone makes a popular device based on a cheap fully featured wideband SDR like the AD9363 or LMS7002. Shit is gonna get fucking wild.
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Cue governments banning working with electronics to stop auto theft and also save the children
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