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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if there will be anyone left in 2100?

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd be more worried about the next 8 years honestly. The sheer volume of heat we are holding onto in this solar cycle/el nino combo is going to cause mass drought and famine at the minimum.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm pretty much resigned to that :(

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

People, surely. But I don't think western society will survive the next few decades, let alone the century.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


September beat the previous monthly record set in 2020 by a staggering 0.5 degrees Celsius, according to data released Wednesday by the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Canada grappled with its unprecedented wildfire season, parts of South America were scorched by record-breaking heat and record rainfall deluged New York.

What Europe experienced in the first three days of October was “one of the most extreme (climate) events in European history,” Herrera posted on X on Tuesday.

The extreme September “has pushed 2023 into the dubious honor of first place – on track to be the warmest year and around 1.4 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial average temperatures,” Burgess said.

The high temperatures have been partially fueled by El Niño, the natural climate pattern that originates in the tropical Pacific Ocean and has a warming effect.

“The significant margin by which the September record was broken should be a wake-up call for policymakers and negotiators ahead of COP28,” Otto said, “we absolutely must agree to phase out fossil fuels.”


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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[–] CaptnKarisma@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My hope is everyone will stay civil with the changes (pessimistic about that), we are going to have to get by with much less.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not as optimistic, personally. We live in a society of loud, angry rubes already.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've always been a bit of a misanthrope, but I suspect covid really opened a lot of people's eyes on what humans are actually like when shit hits the fan.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

My catch phrase when I hear about shitty things people do is just "Yeah, people suck." It works 99% of the time and is accurate